So many false christs have arrived in these end times! Learn how to discern false teachers with Dr. David Reagan and Don Perkins on the show Christ in Prophecy.
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Dr. Reagan: When Jesus spoke of the signs of the end times, the sign He mentioned more than any other was an epidemic of false Christs. Well, folks, we are in the midst of that epidemic today. For a fascinating interview with an expert on false Christs, stay tuned.
Dr. Reagan: Greetings in the name of Jesus our blessed hope! I’m Dave Reagan, founder and director of Lamb and Lion Ministries. Welcome to Christ in Prophecy! And you know what? I am delighted to have as my special guest this week, Don Perkins, a very dear friend and founder and director of According to Prophecy Ministries in San Diego, California. Don, we are delighted to have you with us. We thank you for coming all the way from California to be with us.
Don Perkins: Dave, I am so honored and happy to be with you today.
Dr. Reagan: Well, thank you. You know, every time we have you on the program we have a tremendous response. People just love you Don!
Don Perkins: That’s encouraging!
Dr. Reagan: I know it is.
Don Perkins: That’s encouraging.
Dr. Reagan: Well, before we get started with our study of false Christs, I just want to pause for a moment to tell a little about our special set that we have here today. This desk that we’re sitting behind was designed by Cathy Smith who is the wife of one of our trustees. She’s a very talented artist and she is also an art teacher at Dallas County Community College. She designed it to look like a Jerusalem stone, and I think she did a great job of it. Also, I wanted to mention about this wall hanging that we have over the desk here. This is a very special thing. It was presented to me recently by a man named Kazik Barchuk who is a Messianic Jew from Poland. I met Kazik in the mid 90’s when I was preaching in Poland and we helped him to establish the very first Messianic congregation in Warsaw. I don’t know if you know this or not, but before World War II there were over 400 synagogues in Warsaw. Today, there is only one. That is how completely the Nazis decimated the Jewish population of Poland during World War II. This wall hanging was rescued from one of those synagogues that the Nazis destroyed, and Kazik gave it to us in appreciation for the support we have supplied to him over the years. It’s estimated to be over 150 years old and at the bottom of the hanging there are some Jewish letters that say, “Yahweh is our strength.”
Well, let’s get to our topic about false Christs. In Matthew 24, Jesus gives us a great variety of signs that we are to watch for, signs that will mark the season of His return. I think it’s interesting that the only sign He mentioned more than once is the sign of false Christs. For example, In Matthew 24 in verse 5 He says, “For many will come in My Name saying, ‘I am the Christ and they will mislead many.” Then in verse 11 He repeats it, “and many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.” Then in verse 24, He mentions it a third time. He says, “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.” Well, Don, what about it? Are we in the season that Jesus is talking about here, the season of the multiplications of false Christs?
Don Perkins: Dave I believe we are. We have seen it for a number of years, this increase of false Christs.
Dr. Reagan: Well I know that you have done a lot of study of this and I know you could talk about it for hours and we only have a few minutes here, but could you give us sort of a brief overview of some specific false Christs that are on the scene today?
Don Perkins: Yes, well, we’ve had quite a few. In the ’90s we had David Koresh. He actually claimed to be the Lamb of God. Moving up, you know, we’ve had Sun Myung Moon. He claims to be the new Christ.
Dr. Reagan: In fact, Sun Myung Moon was recently coronated the messiah, wasn’t he?
Don Perkins: Yes, yes.
Dr. Reagan: In Washington D.C., in a public building there, with congressmen and senators present.
Don Perkins: That’s right.
Dr. Reagan: They actually put a crown on his head and declared him to be the messiah.
Don Perkins: And I mean it’s amazing that in our time, the 21st Century, there are still people that will follow an individual who claims to be Jesus, or claims to be Christ. Jesus said that this would be an indicator of the end times. You know, I meet people all the time, you know, you say “Well, who would follow a man today who would claim to be Christ?” Well, it’s happening today. And there are many, many others.
Dr. Reagan: Well, give us some examples.
Don Perkins: Well, there’s one gentleman out of Russia, his name is Sergei, and he was an ex-traffic cop.
Dr. Reagan: An ex-traffic cop?
Don Perkins: Ex-traffic cop. And they call him the Vissarion Christ. People have left their jobs, left their families, they live in this big old commune. They actually call him a Christ, and people are following this guy. We have a new guy today Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda.
Dr. Reagan: Oh, I heard about him recently. In fact he was featured on NBC.
Don Perkins: Yes, yes. NBC, FOX News.
Dr. Reagan: Isn’t he from Puerto Rico?
Don Perkins: Puerto Rico. A lot of his followers are Hispanic, but this man literally claims to be Jesus Christ man. He denies sin. He denies the devil. And his group teaches that when you join him it’s ok to indulge in sin.
Dr. Reagan: Well, I can certainly understand why he would be popular.
Don Perkins: Oh yes, I mean, that would be an easy one.
Dr. Reagan: This is a religion with no requirements.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: Except to believe in him.
Don Perkins: Right. But see Jesus said in the last days there would be many who will claim to be Christ.
Dr. Reagan: You know Don, when I saw the special about him on NBC what got me was that people were literally fighting each other to give him money. They were giving him mansions, cars, businesses. He’s become a multimillionaire. He already has like twenty worship centers in the United States. We are truly living in a time of deception.
Don Perkins: We are truly living in a time, and again, what amazes me so much Dave is the fact that in the 21st Century there are still people today that are gullible to follow a person who would claim to be Christ.
Dr. Reagan: Well, you know Don, you’ve mentioned quite a variety there including this latest guy on the scene. But the one you haven’t mentioned that I thought you would mention first is the one that has really gotten probably more advertising than any other one, and that’s Lord Maitreya.
Don Perkins: Lord Maitreya.
Dr. Reagan: Tell us about him.
Don Perkins: Lord Maitreya, again, part of the Tara Center it’s called. This was a group that actually taught in the early ’80s that this Christ was gonna come on the scene. He was gonna overshadow men and women. As a matter of fact, their motto, they did a full page ad in the Los Angeles Times in the early ’80s claiming that the Christ was here.
Dr. Reagan: Well, actually, that full page ad was in every newspaper of any size all across the United States and around the world.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: They have a lot of money. I don’t know where it comes from.
Don Perkins: A lot of money. A guy by the name of Benjamin Creme was his forerunner. This guy actually goes ahead of this Lord Maitreya.
Dr. Reagan: Now, this Lord Maitreya has never really actually appeared before a television camera.
Don Perkins: No, he hasn’t.
Dr. Reagan: But they do show photos of him.
Don Perkins: As a matter of fact, on the website you can see pictures of him and what he supposedly looks like. But this man claims to be the Christ of all Christs if you want to call it. And he teaches that basically that every other religion, every other world teacher, Buddha, all of them are under Christ, under him. He’s the master Christ, if you want to call it. He claims that every other Christ comes from him.
Dr. Reagan: Wow.
Don Perkins: And again, it puts him in the category of the false prophets.
Dr. Reagan: Is he supposed to be in India?
Don Perkins: I’m not sure where he’s actually located. Some of the writings that I’ve gotten, some of the news articles I’ve gotten said that he was based out of London. Years ago he was based out of London.
Dr. Reagan: But never has really appeared to anyone.
Don Perkins: Never been this overshadowing that he has promised, that he’s gonna overshadow the world, end world hunger, and all those things. I mean, all of these guys, they fall in that category that Jesus said, as a false Christ. Now, a false Christ, the term Christ means the anointed one, and these people claim to be the anointed one that’s coming to cure all of man’s ailments.
Dr. Reagan: Well, what gets me is it seems like there’s just been an absolute epidemic of these in recent years.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: One after another, after another, after another. And you know it seems to me it’s an exact fulfillment of what Jesus said here.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: And He even said in Matthew 24:24 that some of these would even be able to do signs and wonders.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: Miracles. And people will say, “Hey! If he can do a miracle, certainly he must be the messiah.”
Don Perkins: Yes, he must be God.
Dr. Reagan: So, we may have some more yet to come on the scene that are miracle workers.
Don Perkins: Dave, I really believe that we will see that as we near the end times.
Dr. Reagan: I think it’s interesting that this latest one out of Puerto Rico says that he is certainly not a false Christ because he points to this, he says, the false Christs will perform miracles, and I don’t perform miracles.
Don Perkins: Right, right. And therefore, he teaches that. He’s one of the most dangerous ones I think today because he actually uses Scripture to prove that he is not the false Christ. But, we know, based on the Word of God, he falls right into that category.
Dr. Reagan: Well, the Devil is very, very clever isn’t he?
Don Perkins: Very, very crafty. You know, I watched a program on, I think it was Dateline, that did the special on him. And what amazed me was that the people in the audience, how they were worshipping him and how they praised him. Even singing songs that we normally sing in our churches, they’re basically singing these songs to this individual.
Dr. Reagan: Songs that we sing to Jesus, they’re singing to him.
Don Perkins: Yes, yes. And you know, he’s wearing all types of fine watches and he’s got homes everywhere, you know. But most cults like that, I mean, they always deal with sin. Sin is never what we know from the Bible.
Dr. Reagan: Yeah, right.
Don Perkins: And again, it puts him in that category.
Dr. Reagan: Well, folks, in just a moment we are going to shift our attention from specific false Christs to the way in which the media is preparing the way for the antichrist through their presentation of a distorted image of Jesus. But first, let’s pause for a word about a book that will help you to identify false Christs, and their cultic groups.
Dr. Reagan: Welcome back to our discussion of false Christs in the end times. Again, I am delighted to have my colleague, Don Perkins in the studio with me this week. He’s the spokesman for a Bible prophecy ministry located in San Diego, California. That ministry’s called According to Prophecy. Don, let’s take just a moment for you to tell people how they can get in touch with your ministry, ok?
Don Perkins: I will be honored to do that. You can reach our ministry online at www.according2prophecy.org. You can reach us that way real easy.
Dr. Reagan: And folks, I would encourage you to go to his website. It is full of materials, all kinds of resources that will help you to better understand Bible prophecy, and I would encourage you to contact Don about coming to your church to speak because he can put on a conference that I tell you will bless your socks off. [Don chuckles] So, thank you Don and I hope people will be contacting you.
Don Perkins: Thank you.
Dr. Reagan: Well, let’s get back to our discussion of false Christs. In the first part of this program we talked about false Christs and got very specific about some, but in this portion I want us to talk about the spirit of deception that’s going to characterize things in the end times. The Bible speaks about this in many places that in the end times, there will be this spirit of deception that will go out and deceive people into believing in false Christs and false prophets. One of the places where this is mentioned in 2 Timothy chapter 4, beginning there with verse, well let’s begin with verse 2. It says, “Preach the Word. Be ready in season and out of season, reprove, repute, exhort with great patience and instruction.” And brother I tell you, that’s something that preachers all over America today need to hear. Preach the Word!
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: Don’t preach the wisdom of man, but preach the Word of God. Number three, “for the time will come when they”, the people in the pews, “will not endure sound doctrine, but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside into mist.” Now Don, I understand that it’s your contention that we are living in that day and age right now.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: We’re living in an age where a spirit of deception has gone out into this world and many, many people are being deceived into believing in false Christs. And I think it is your contention because I’ve heard you make this presentation at conferences, that the media is playing a major role in preparing people to accept false Christs. Could you explain that to us?
Don Perkins: I really believe that Dave and one way we know, with the media, printed media, TV, all of it I really believe it is being used in that capacity. I’ve been tracking the periodicals, Newsweek, Time Magazine, I mean, just major news magazines for probably 10 or 11 years. And what I’ve noticed Dave is that around the holidays, Christmas, around Easter time, there’s always a periodical, some article that comes out about Jesus.
Dr. Reagan: And usually a cover article.
Don Perkins: Always a cover article, I mean I have many articles, I have one here entitled US News and World Report they have when Jesus was killed.
Dr. Reagan: “Why Was He Killed?”
Don Perkins: “Why Was He Killed?” In this article they basically say that Jesus was murdered, not murdered. He was killed because He was a rebel. Totally discounting what the Scripture said, we know the scripture says–
Dr. Reagan: He was anything but a rebel. That’s what some of His followers wanted Him to be, a rebel to overthrow the Romans.
Don Perkins: Well, because He didn’t relieve the Roman whip off of them, many Jews rejected Him. You know, “give us Barabas”.
Dr. Reagan: And nonetheless, they say He’s a rebel.
Don Perkins: Well, what happened, because they don’t want to honor Christ from what the Word of God teaches about Him, most of these periodicals today, whenever you see a magazine in the grocery store about Christ. I would tell people all the time, be very careful, because nine times out of ten, it’s not gonna portray Christ in a true light.
Dr. Reagan: And it does that very subtly.
Don Perkins: Very subtle. And they use, you know, again, “scholars”. Many people when they hear the term scholar that adds validity to the teacher or the person that’s talking.
Dr. Reagan: When I’m watching these media specials on television about Jesus.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: And they always say, “Now, we’re gonna go to a scholar.”
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: I always cringe. Because I always know it’s going to be some super liberal who doesn’t even believe that Jesus was God in the flesh.
Don Perkins: That’s right, he doesn’t believe in the virgin birth, doesn’t believe in the resurrection. I mean, I have countless articles. I have another one by Newsweek entitled “Rethinking the Resurrection.” In this one there’s a new debate about the resurrection of Christ. The article goes on to teach that Christ was not raised from the dead. You know, Paul said, “if Christ be not risen, we are still in our sin.”
Dr. Reagan: And the incredible thing about it is you can still find Christian experts.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: Who will argue that?
Don Perkins: So called scholars.
Dr. Reagan: Look, we have a Christian university – “Christian university”— here in the Dallas area, and a few years ago their professor Emeritus of New Testament Theology gave an Easter sermon to the students, in which he said, “The resurrection of Jesus was really what happened after the death of Martin Luther King. His followers got together, sat around the table, drank some coffee and said ‘Do you remember when Martin said so-and-so, do you remember when Martin said this?’ And in the process He became alive in their hearts, and that’s all there was to the resurrection of Jesus.”
Don Perkins: My Lord. You know, it’s a danger, I mean, we are truly living in the end times. I believe because the world is seeing a false view of who Christ is.
Dr. Reagan: There you go.
Don Perkins: And people are not really spending time in the scripture to learn who He is. I made the statement in some of our conferences in regards to the Da Vinci Code, I mean, that thing was such a best seller, I mean, many people, even Christians sad to say, many were…their faith was shaken by the Da Vinci Code. And I made a statement many times that it was really sad that many Christians knew more about the Jesus of the Da Vinci Code, and not Jesus of the Bible.
Dr. Reagan: Yeah, the Jesus who married Mary Magdalene, and had children.
Don Perkins: Right, right.
Dr. Reagan: And they all went to France, and you know, it’s just absolute nonsense!
Don Perkins: Well, you know, you have a very good book that your ministry offers Dave. It’s called Christ In Prophecy and I would recommend your viewers to order that. It shows Christ from the Old Testament. You actually look in the Old Testament and you can see Christ’s life, you can see everything that was prophesied about His life in regards to what He’s gonna do. When the Da Vinci Code came out, I wasn’t shaken not one bit, and the reason why was because I knew that His life was prewritten in the Old Testament. Every aspect of His life in the New Testament was already prewritten, and therefore, nowhere in the Old Testament do you see Christ marry Mary Magdalene.
Dr. Reagan: That’s right.
Don Perkins: I mean He fulfilled every prophecy, to the minutest detail.
Dr. Reagan: Well, give us another example, I see you’ve got one here from US News.
Don Perkins: US News, “In Search of Jesus.”
Dr. Reagan: In search of Him?
Don Perkins: In search of Jesus. Who was He, new appraisals?
Dr. Reagan: I shutter to think what their conclusions were.
Don Perkins: Well, their conclusion again falls in the line of false Christs, presenting Christ in a false light. You know, I normally tell people this I say “You wanna find Christ? Spend time with Him in His Word.” You know, you don’t need to search for Jesus anywhere.
Dr. Reagan: Amen. You don’t need to go to the media. You can go right to the Word.
Don Perkins: Time Magazine “The Search for Jesus.” Some scholars are re-debunking the gospel, their debunking the gospel, in other words they’re saying that the gospel’s not true. The gospel account, you know. I’d rather believe those disciples.
Dr. Reagan: Who knew Him!
Don Perkins: Who knew Him.
Dr. Reagan: They lived with Him.
Don Perkins: Who ate fish when He calls the miracle of the fish and the loaves.
Dr. Reagan: 3 ½ years they lived with Him
Don Perkins: I’d rather believe those first century guys who were with Him, than some Johnny-come-lately scholar who claimed to know Jesus. But I’ve gotta say something Dave, what these articles are doing is shaping the worldview of who Christ is.
Dr. Reagan: Sure.
Don Perkins: It’s causing many questions in people’s minds as to the validity of who Christ is. But I gotta tell you, I mean, we know that He’s real.
Dr. Reagan: Well give us another example.
Don Perkins: Here’s another one, US News. “Who was Jesus? A New Look at His Words and Deeds.” A new look at them?
Dr. Reagan: You know it’s always questions.
Don Perkins: Always questions. You know what’s amazing to me? I’ve never seen an article on “Who was Satan?” You know, “the truth about the devil.”
Dr. Reagan: Or “Who was Muhammad?”
Don Perkins: I’ve never seen an article.
Dr. Reagan: Yeah.
Don Perkins: They will always attack the truth. Again, false Christ is in the media. The scripture says in the end times about this spirit of anti-Christ.
Dr. Reagan: And the thing that gets me is so often they conclude by saying, “Well, He was a great man, He was a moral man.”
Don Perkins: He was a good prophet.
Dr. Reagan: He was a fine person, but He certainly wasn’t God in the flesh.” And that reminds me of C. S. Lewis’s great statement where he says, “Don’t give me that nonsense.” That’s absolute nonsense when you do that. He says “Jesus was either who He said He was, God in the flesh, or He was a mad man, equivalent to a person who thinks he’s a poached egg, because,” he said, “good people do not go around telling lies, saying I am God in the flesh. Good people do not go around saying I forgive you of your sins. He was either who He said He was, or He was a madman, but don’t write Him off as just some good person.”
Don Perkins: That’s right, that’s right. But they try to do that to appease everybody. You know, I got another article, Jesus Seminar, that’s another group of these so-called scholars.
Dr. Reagan: I froth at the mouth when you start talking about the Jesus Seminar. Tell folks what the Jesus Seminar is all about.
Don Perkins: It’s a group of so-called scholars. They get together every year. They vote with colored marbles to say whether or not Jesus did this or not in the gospels.
Dr. Reagan: Yeah, they vote on every verse. Did He say it? Maybe He said it. Maybe He didn’t say it. He didn’t say it.
Don Perkins: Right, right. Again, I’d rather follow the first century guys than these Johnny-come-lately scholars. In this particular article, Jesus Seminar Scholars verdict, Christ was not born of a virgin. And this article Dave really is blasphemy.
Dr. Reagan: And these are supposed to be Christian believers?
Don Perkins: So-called Scholars. The article goes on to say that they believe that Mary was impregnated by a Roman soldier. I mean, blasphemous. But you know, this is the diet that our society is being fed in regards to who Jesus is. And what I’m challenging pastors and churches all over the country is that, you need to get back to the Book, you know, the Word of God is the absolute truth about who Christ is. God put in the Old Testament what He would do, in the New Testament we saw Christ’s life fulfilled. He fulfilled all of these prophesies. And again, we need to get back to what the Word of God says and teaches about Him. And not, again, look at these so-called Johnny-come-lately scholars who claim to know who Jesus was. And again, it’s a disguise for their attempt to dethrone Him.
Dr. Reagan: That’s true. Well you know, Don, I appreciate you making the comments that you made about our publication called the Christ in Prophecy Study Guide, and I’d just like to say to you folks that that is a guide that is now in its third edition. The third Edition has just come out, it’s large in size, 8 ½ by 11. It has a new special binding on it. We used to spiral bind it but now it has a new special binding that allows the book to lie flat so that you can easily write in it, take notes from it. It contains every prophecy in the Bible about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, and the First Coming.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: Every messianic prophecy. It is designed for serious students of Bible prophecy. It’s in outline form that you can follow very quickly, runs 150 pages. And we offer it for a gift of $20 or more. So, if you’d like to get a copy of that, all you’d have to do is call us at the number you see on the screen there and ask for the Christ in Prophecy Study Guide. And I hope you’ll do that, and it will help you to really develop a biblical view of who Jesus was all about. Do you have any more comments Don you want to make to us about Jesus in the media?
Don Perkins: Yeah, I want to read one of these, this particular one “In Search of Jesus,” listen to what they say. “The historical Jesus is not the real Jesus.” This article says that the historical Jesus, in other words the Biblical Jesus, is not the real Jesus.
Dr. Reagan: I’m so stunned I have to just sit and think about that.
Don Perkins: Yeah, the Biblical Jesus, that’s really what they’re saying. The Biblical Jesus is not the real Jesus.
Dr. Reagan: Now who are they to say that? Well, they’re scholars. Remember my colleague Dennis Pollock?
Don Perkins: Yes, yes.
Dr. Reagan: Dennis Pollock would say, “Who says?”
Don Perkins: That’s right, that’s right. These are so-called scholars that men give credibility to and therefore because of that, I mean, you know, the Word of God commands every one of us to try the Spirit whether it is of God or not.
Dr. Reagan: You know, all this nonsense comes out of what’s called the German School of Higher Criticism, which looks upon the Bible as being man’s search for God, and therefore full of myth, legend and superstition.
Don Perkins: Yes.
Dr. Reagan: Instead of God’s revelation to man, and so their idea is, instead of reading it and believing it and acting on it, you read it and you criticize it like you’re reading Shakespeare, and take it apart and all this sort of thing, and the result of that is, that those who buy that, it destroys their faith. And we can see England as a perfect example because the Nineteenth Century England was the center of world evangelism and suddenly today, seven percent of the people go to church in England because the Anglican church bought that hook, line, and sinker and began to say “Well, you know, this is man opinion, but who wants to go and listen to man’s opinion?”
Don Perkins: Yes. You know, again Dave, it gets back to the post modern society too. That society that there is no absolute truth.
Dr. Reagan: No absolute truth.
Don Perkins: You can believe in a Jesus like this and I can believe in a Jesus like that and everybody’s happy.
Dr. Reagan: And I can believe in Jesus and Muhammad and Buddha at the same time.
Don Perkins: Yes, yes.
Dr. Reagan: Because it all depends on feelings, yes. You’ve got another example?
Don Perkins: I want to quote this. This was a prophecy update talking about Reverend Moon. Listen to what it says. It says, “The world’s new Christ is here, according to the Assembly of World Religions. And he is Reverend Sun Myung Moon. The Unification Church founder has declared that he is the new Christ. He claims to be the messiah, the destroyer of Satan’s denomination. Moon is called the father of the universe and his wife is called the mother of the universe.” Listen to what he says, “Because Jesus failed to accomplish His purpose.” So in other words, he’s teaching today that Jesus failed in the purpose that God called Him to do. We know that that is incorrect, you know.
Dr. Reagan: But again, it’s a false Christ. It’s amazing how people flock to him.
Don Perkins: Hundreds of thousands of people go to his events and meetings.
Dr. Reagan: You know, I have people calling me all the time and say, “hey guess what! I got a free trip to Korea!” And I know exactly what they’re gonna say. I’ll say “yeah, Reverend Moon’s paying.” “Well, yeah, but it’s a free trip!” I said, “yes, and he’s gonna go over there and appear to you and tell you he’s the messiah and make a dupe out of you.” And they’ll go and sit through this! Yes.
Don Perkins: You know, he also marries couples. He and his wife believe that if they marry you, you are taken back to the pre-state of Adam and Eve.
Dr. Reagan: Well, Don, our time’s almost up. You got any, one final example you want to give us?
Don Perkins: Well, Dave, again, I just want to give the warning. The scripture commands that we as Christians need to be on the alert.
Dr. Reagan: Test everything by the Word of God.
Don Perkins: Test everything by the Word of God.
Dr. Reagan: Test it by the eye witnesses of Jesus.
Don Perkins: Test it Jesus said if they say He is here or He’s there. He said don’t follow them. You know, when I hear of a guy claiming to be Christ, automatically I know that it’s a false Christ because I know based on the scripture how Jesus will come. I’m looking for Him Dave- I’m looking for Him in the Rapture!
Dr. Reagan: Well, I am too, and brother listen, I used to be looking for signs of His coming, but there are so many signs now, I’m listening for sounds! I’m listening for the blowing of that trumpet!
Don Perkins: I’m with you!
Dr. Reagan: I am ready for it any moment, brother!
Don Perkins: I’m with you.
Dr. Reagan: Ok. Well, folks, our time is almost up and I want to thank my guest Don Perkins once again for being with us this week. He has tremendous knowledge of Bible prophecy, very enthusiastic teacher of prophecy. I often tell people if you ever develop any enthusiasm you’re really gonna be a good teacher, Don.
Don Perkins: Awesome!
Dr. Reagan: But anyway, I’m excited to tell you that Don’s gonna be back with us again next week to discuss misconceptions regarding both the nature and the meaning of Bible prophecy. I look forward to that, Don!
Don Perkins: It’s gonna be a wonderful study. I’m looking forward to it!
Dr. Reagan: Ok, thanks for coming back next week.
Don Perkins: Honored to be here.
Dr. Reagan: Until then, this is Dave Reagan speaking for Lamb and Lion Ministries saying “Look up, be watchful, for our redemption is drawing near!”
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