Forum on the Millennium

Is Jesus coming to rule and reign for a thousand years? Find out from a forum of Bible prophecy experts on the show Christ in Prophecy.

Last aired on June 8, 2014.

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Dr. Reagan: The majority viewpoint within Christendom today regarding a future reign of Jesus on this earth is that it will never happen. That is the view of both the Catholic Church and the majority of Protestant denominations. This viewpoint is called Amillennialism. So, what about it? Is this viewpoint correct, or does the Bible teach that Jesus is returning to reign in glory and majesty for 1000 years from Jerusalem? Stay tuned for the opinions of a panel of Bible prophecy experts.

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Part 1

Dr. Reagan: Greetings in the name of Jesus, our Blessed Hope, and welcome to Christ in Prophecy. As you can see once again this week I have a studio full of people all of whom are experts on Bible prophecy. Returning with us from last week’s program are first of all Al Gist who is a dear friend of mine and director of Maranatha Evangelistic Ministries located near De Ridder, Louisiana. Welcome to Texas brother!

Al Gist: Thank you, Brother Dave, good to be here.

Dr. Reagan: And again here is my former colleague, Dennis Pollock who is now heading up a ministry called, Spirit of Grace that’s located in Texas but focuses primarily on the continent of Africa. In fact you’ve just gotten back from Africa right?

Dennis Pollock: No, actually from India.

Dr. Reagan: India, oh, that’s right you also go to India.

Dennis Pollock: Go to India.

Dr. Reagan: And glad to have you back.

Dennis Pollock: Thanks, Dave, it’s a blessing to be here.

Dr. Reagan: And down here on the end is my colleague Nathan Jones who is the co-host of this program. Nathan it is always good to have you on the set with me. Now we’re going to be focusing in this segment on the millennial reign of Jesus Christ, is it going to happen or not? And I just want to start off with that question. It’s the question of: Is there going to be a Millennial reign, and if so why? And I want to start with you Al.

Al Gist: Well yes, Dave, without a doubt there is absolutely going to be a Millennial reign of the Lord Jesus Christ on this planet, a literal, physical kingdom where He will rule from His throne in Jerusalem over the entire planet for a 1,000 years. It will be a reign of peace, justice and righteousness such as the world has never seen before.

Dr. Reagan: Well, that’s wonderful news. Why do you believe that?

Al Gist: Well, the reason I believe it is very simply because the Bible tells me so. I believe it for the same reason I believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, the reason I believe in the coming Tribulation, and that is the Scriptures teach that there is definitely going to be a literal kingdom that the Lord is going to reign over in this world. If you accept the Bible literally, if you interpret it to mean what it actually says. And you know there are plenty of Scriptures that talk about the peace of that time, about the justice and the righteousness. How God is going to change nature to a non-vicious nature. How God is going to extend the longevity of life. And many, many things, many aspects of the Millennial Kingdom. In fact it was one of the favorite topics of the Old Testament prophets because the Jewish people had been so persecuted over the years they loved to talk about the coming reign of Messiah and the Millennial Kingdom.

Dr. Reagan: You know I want to come back to that in a moment because many people believe that the Millennial reign of Jesus Christ is mentioned in only one place and that is Revelation 20.

Al Gist: Yeah.

Dr. Reagan: But we know that it is mentioned in many other places.

Al Gist: Many places.

Dr. Reagan: We’ll come back to that point. How about you Dennis? Do you think there is going to be a Millennial reign, and if so why?

Dennis Pollock: Well, I absolutely do and it is the same reason that Al gave. You know you might as well ask me do I believe Jesus walked on the Sea of Galilee? Do I believe He was born of a virgin? Yeah, I do. Why? Well the Bible says that.

Dr. Reagan: But you see here’s the point –both of you said well the Bible says so.

Dennis Pollock: Right.

Dr. Reagan: And yet the majority view in Christendom today is that this will never happen. So somebody happens to believe the Bible doesn’t say that.

Al Gist: You’re right.

Dennis Pollock: Well, yeah, there have been theologians or so called theologians that have decided that it couldn’t possibly mean what it says and therefore they have turned away. Now when you say the majority view I would say this, the majority view in most of the churches that are officially Amillennial is if you go to the average person who attends those churches is: What do you mean Amillennial? Pre-Millennial?

Dr. Reagan: There you go.

Al Gist: Yeah.

Dr. Reagan: They don’t really know.

Dennis Pollock: What in the world is that all about? They don’t know a thing about it. In fact I think it was you that told me about a pastor of a particular denomination that you were teaching on these different millennial views and he wasn’t sure what his church believed. And he went and said, “I’ll have to ask my bishop.” And he came back and said, “Well, I asked my bishop and he’s not sure what we believe so he is going to ask some other bishop and we’ll get back with you.”

Dr. Reagan: That’s right. That actually happened.

Dennis Pollock: So, I mean.

Dr. Reagan: You’re right.

Dennis Pollock: There are so many Christians that just they don’t really have a view, but if you go to the official view of their particular denomination it would be Amillennial. And it is the idea that when the Bible, as example of Revelation 20 says, He’ll reign for a 1,000 years. The Devil will be put in a pit for a 1,000 years. I think it uses 1,000 years what five or six times in that short passage.

Dennis Pollock: That’s right.

Al Gist: Yeah.

Dennis Pollock: And people read that and they simply can’t accept it as it is written. But the reality is that Revelation 20 passage is very significant because it goes into detail. A lot of prophecies can break down into little short glimpses, a tiny phrase, a single verse that gives you a hint about something but you don’t get all the details. But Revelation 20 is the most detailed description in terms of the length of the Millennium that you will find in the Bible and you couldn’t possibly miss it except to say, couldn’t mean what it says.

Dr. Reagan: How about you Nathan?

Nathan Jones: Well, to even have a Amillennial viewpoint means there had to been a millennium to begin with because “A” means no, no-Millennium, Amillennial. So where did they get the millennium to begin with? That means millennium was the idea that came before Amillennial. And like you gentlemen said it is Revelation 20 and it says it six times, “The rest of the dead didn’t come to life until the 1,000 years were complete.” A millennium being a 1,000 years. But we will be priests of God and of the Messiah. They will reign with Him for 1,000 years. So the idea that came first was right out of the Bible a 1,000 years. But it has been 2,000 years people kind of gave up and so now we have an Amillennial view, the idea that it couldn’t possibly be a millennium because time is meaningless to God, that’s the thinking behind it.

Dr. Reagan: So, basically what the three of you are saying then is that the Bible says Jesus is coming back to reign for 1,000 years. Says so point blank.

Al Gist: Very true.

Nathan Jones: Six times.

Dr. Reagan: To get around that you have to spiritualize you’ve got to say it doesn’t mean what it says. Why would people want to do that? Why would they want to say it doesn’t mean what it says?

Al Gist: Sometimes theologians look for some kind of deeper meaning in the Scriptures and they believe that by spiritualizing the Scriptures they can find that hidden meaning that is there. But the best way to always take the Bible is at face value, if it says something just believe it. Not because you understand it because look there is plenty of things about the Bible that we don’t understand but we believe it none the less so we believe it because it’s God’s Word.

Dr. Reagan: I even had a leading Amillennial spokesman one time say to me, “In the book of Psalms it says God is in charge of the cattle on a 1,000 hills.” He says, “Are there only 1,000 hills?” I said, “No.” He said, “Well you see 1,000 is symbolic, 1,000 doesn’t mean 1,000.” How do you respond to that?

Dennis Pollock: Well, you look at the First Coming prophecies I think the best guide is to look at the First Coming prophecies and ask yourself were these all symbolic prophecies that had no basis in literal fulfillment, or not? Let me ask our audience a question: Was Jesus born of a symbolic virgin or a literal virgin? Did He ride a symbolic donkey down the Mount of Olives or did He ride a literal? I think it would have been kind of hard to ride a symbol down the Mount of Olives. He was riding a real, smelly, braying donkey. And so the First Coming prophecies overwhelmingly, in fact I can’t think of any that were just purely symbolic. Overwhelmingly were fulfilled literally. And to say God suddenly did a change and now none of them mean what they say, thou protest too much.

Dr. Reagan: Right. And of course meaning of words is determined by context. When it says God owns the cattle on a 1,000 hills that is obviously symbolic.

Dennis Pollock: Sure.

Dr. Reagan: Where as you put it in other contexts and it is like saying the White House announced today that the President is going to Russia. Does the White House speak? No, that is symbolic. But what if I said today I visited the White House?

Dennis Pollock: Yeah.

Dr. Reagan: That is literal. Context determines the meaning of words.

Al Gist: Amen.

Dr. Reagan: And so it could be symbolic in one place and literal in another. And I don’t know how you get more literal than Revelation 20 where it says it six times, going to reign for a 1,000 years.

Al Gist: Yeah.

Nathan Jones: Well, it is the spiritualization. When you spiritualize the Bible you become the authority of what the Bible says. It puts you in the place of God, instead of God in the place of God as the ultimate authority.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, it’s fun to spiritualize Scriptures because then you can make them mean whatever you want them to.

Nathan Jones: You’re the go to guy.

Dennis Pollock: Now one thing I think may be partly responsible for so many going toward this Amillennial view is sheer laziness because it is a very easy view to understand, to believe. You don’t have to think much, you can take huge passages of prophecy and just kind of sum them up in, well Jesus will come back take us to Heaven and that will be the end of things. And so you know if you don’t want to study, you don’t want to compare Scripture with Scripture. You don’t want to read books about prophecy, you don’t want to hear any teachings about it, you just want a good, simple, lazy view, Amillennial is for you. There is not much to it, Christ comes we all go up to Heaven, the earth burns up that’s the end of things.

Dr. Reagan: You always bring up that five letter word that is so evil, study.

Dennis Pollock: Study, exactly.

Part 2

Dr. Reagan: Welcome back to Christ in Prophecy and our panel discussion of the Millennium. Now Al, I interrupted you a few minutes ago when you started talking about Old Testament references and I want to get back to that now. Many people believe the only place in the Bible that the Millennium is mentioned is in Revelation 20. In fact I even had a guy say one time to me, “Well it is only mentioned in one chapter of the Bible, so.” Well to me if it’s mentioned in one verse that is important. But anyway are there any references to the Millennium in the Old Testament, or is this strictly a New Testament concept?

Al Gist: No, in fact, Dave there is more mentioned of it in the Old Testament then there is in the New Testament.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Al Gist: As I said a moment ago it was a favorite topic of the Old Testament prophets. And I could just give you a few examples. I mean they are so numerous we couldn’t possibly do them all on this program, but in Daniel 2 for instance the Bible tells us that the Lord is going to come back, He will destroy the empires and the kingdoms of men and then He will establish His kingdom which shall last forever. By far the major topic of the book of Isaiah is about the Millennial Kingdom.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, yeah.

Al Gist: He talks about it being a world-wide kingdom. How it will be a great day of peace in Isaiah 2:4, “When men will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks.” And he says, “Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.” He talks about how God is going to remove the viciousness of nature when the wolf will also lie with the lamb and so forth. In Isaiah 11 it will be a time of great agricultural abundance according to Isaiah 35 when the desert will blossom like a rose. I mean Isaiah is literally replete with descriptions of the Messianic Kingdom just as Ezekiel and most of the other prophets are. But Zechariah is the one I think who puts the cap on the topic he really sums it up well. It says here in Zechariah 14:9 it says, “And the Lord shall be king over all the earth and that day there shall be one Lord and His name one.” And I can only say to that hallelujah.

Dr. Reagan: Amen.

Al Gist: I can’t wait when the whole planet will now who is in charge and it will be King Jesus.

Dr. Reagan: You know when you were talking about Isaiah it reminded me Isaiah he has visions, he has dreams, he has direct revelations from God about the Millennial Kingdom, and just one after another after another. And you get over to the end of the book in Isaiah 64:1 and he suddenly screams at the top of his voice and says, “O, that you would rend the heavens and come on down.”

Al Gist: Come on down.

Dr. Reagan: Listen I want this to be a reality, Lord. How about you Dennis?

Dennis Pollock: Yeah, I would like to just share a little bit from Isaiah 24. Isaiah 24 is in many respects a parallel to the Tribulation as you read it in Revelation.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Dennis Pollock: He goes through some tremendous descriptions of the agony of the earth and all the kingdoms will experience. Let me just share a few of those. I know we are talking about the Millennium but we’ll get to that in just a moment, but he starts out saying, “The Lord makes the earth empty, makes it waste, distorts its surface, scatters abroad its inhabitants.” He goes on verse 5, “The earth is defiled under its inhabitants.” Verse 6, “The curse has devoured the earth.” Down to 17, “Fear in the pit and the snare are upon you, o, inhabitants of the earth.” Verse 19, “The earth is violently broken, the earth is split open, the earth is shaken exceedingly shall reel to and fro like a drunkard.”

Dr. Reagan: Yeah.

Dennis Pollock: Just the most graphic, violent language you could imagine to describe. And he goes on and on and says the earth and it speaks about the kingdoms of the nations, so this is not just a local judgment on some particular community. But where we get to the Millennium is in the very last verse after going through this tremendous description of violence on the earth and the earth just going through this terrible catastrophe he says in verse 23, “The moon will be disgraced, the sun ashamed, the Lord of host will reign on Mount Zion in Jerusalem.”

Al Gist: Amen.

Dennis Pollock: “Then before his elders gloriously.”

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Dennis Pollock: And you know as we think about these Millennial passages like Al mentioned and a number of others the question you have to ask is: Ok, has this happened yet? And of course the answer is obviously no, it hasn’t. Has Israel been elevated? Has the mountain of the Lord’s house been exalted above the nations? And the answer is no. So if it hasn’t happened but God says it will happen what is the obvious conclusion you have to draw? It’s going to happen. This is a prophecy that will be fulfilled. And of course people that study Bible prophecy and think about it and compare Scripture with Scripture and read book and write books and get involved in the whole thing almost all come to these same conclusions, there will be a Millennium. The Amillennial view is the premier choice for people that don’t like to think too much about it. But if you go to the people who really study the prophecies and really think a lot about the Lord’s return it always leads you to this idea that Christ is coming back after a terrible period of destruction on the earth and He is going to reign not in Washington D.C., not in Nairobi, Kenya but in Jerusalem for a 1,000 years.

Dr. Reagan: You mean He’s not coming back to Texas to reign?

Dennis Pollock: Well.

Dr. Reagan: Nathan.

Nathan Jones: I look so forward to the Millennial Kingdom because it is the time of peace and righteousness and justice.

Dr. Reagan: Amen.

Nathan Jones: I mean living on this earth now is like having itching powder on you. You know it is itchy, it’s scratchy, you’re tired, your eyes are watering, but in the Millennial Kingdom it’s peace, and righteousness. You don’t have to worry about your back, you’re not carrying guns. What I like too is you go to Isaiah 65, “I will rejoice in Jerusalem, be glad in my people the sound of weeping and crying will no longer be heard in her. In her a nursing infant will no longer live only a few days, or old man not live out his days. Indeed the youth will die at 100 years and the one that misses a 100 years will be cursed.” You have to have a Millennial Kingdom just because people are living for a 1,000 years. I mean we have the life spans back. And we as believers in Christ are promised that in our glorified bodies we will reign with Jesus. And there are all sorts of verses that talk about that where we reign with the Messiah, reign with Jesus over the world and help Him as and just– I can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to that time period.

Dr. Reagan: Amen, me too.

Dennis Pollock: You know so many times you’ll hear a worship leader that will say, “Well you better enjoy worship because we are going to be singing forever, basically, we’ll 24/7 when we get to Heaven.” But the Bible never says that we will sing with Christ forever.

Nathan Jones: Yeah.

Dennis Pollock: It says we will reign with Christ forever.

Al Gist: Reign with Him.

Dennis Pollock: Yes.

Al Gist: That’s right.

Dr. Reagan: Yes, it’s going to be wonderful. I think of Ezekiel 48 very last verse of the whole book of Ezekiel talks about the chapter talks about the New Jerusalem that will exist during that time, the Millennial reign. And it says that the name of Jerusalem will be changed

Al Gist: Amen.

Dr. Reagan: To Yahweh-Shammah which means the Lord is there.

Al Gist: Wow.

Dr. Reagan: Because Jesus is going to be there in His gloried body. He is going to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is going to have David in his glorified body I believe is going to be resurrected to reign as the king of Israel. And we in our glorified bodies are going to be scattered out all over this earth for the purpose of reigning over those who are in natural bodies. Those believers at the end of the Tribulation who are brought into the Millennium in the flesh will be reigning over them. And everybody on this planet who’s in a position of authority, kings, presidents, prime ministers, mayors, school boards, city councils, all of them will be made up of people in glorified bodies.

Dennis Pollock: Now, Dave are you saying there will be no separation of church and state here?

Dr. Reagan: I’m saying teachers will teach everything out of the Word of God, and nobody will be there to say, “Separation of Church and state,” because there will be no separation of church and state.

Al Gist: Oh, that’s right.

Dr. Reagan: This is going to be a theocracy and the result is the earth is going to be flooded with peace, righteousness, and justice as the waters cover the sea. And for that reason I get up every morning and shout, “Maranatha, Maranatha, come quickly Lord Jesus, Amen.”

Al Gist: Maranatha. Amen.

Part 3

Dr. Reagan: Welcome back to our discussion of the Millennium. And I would like to just jump into some discussion of Amillennialism. Now Amillennialism is the idea that the Millennial reign of Jesus Christ began at the cross and continues to this day and that Jesus is reigning over the world from heaven at the right hand of His Father. Now what are some problems with that viewpoint? Nathan. I mean Dennis why don’t you start off.

Dennis Pollock: Well of course what they are saying is that these promises of Revelation 20 are being fulfilled even as today.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Dennis Pollock: And if you look at Revelation 20 it describes some things that are amazing. It describes Satan being thrown into a pit where he will deceive the nations no more. If someone is trying to tell me Satan is in a pit and is deceiving the nations no more, I would say to them what part of deceive the nations no more do you not get? Because deception is everywhere, America and every other country.

Dr. Reagan: I have to say that one time I was teaching on this and I taught that Amillennialism teaches that Satan is bound now and I had a guy jump up right in the middle and he just said, “Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You’re saying they believe Satan is bound now?” And I said, “Yes.” He said, “Well, brother I want to tell you something if he is bound now he is bound on a very long chain because he is always gnawing on my leg.”

Dennis Pollock: Yeah, and if he’s bound now someone needs to inform him that’s bound because he doesn’t seem to know it.

Al Gist: He doesn’t know. Yeah.

Dennis Pollock: And one other problem that is huge is that the Amillennial viewpoint which Amillennialists those that really take it seriously and think it through, really have no use for Israel at all.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah.

Dennis Pollock: And so that viewpoint declares that God’s miraculous restoration of Israel that He has accomplished in bringing the Jews back to their ancient homeland. Restoring them as nation. Restoring the land. Restoring the military. Doing all that He has done to create Israel, something that’s never occurred in the history of our planet all of that is meaningless and at best it’s just a coincidence. It has no prophetic significance. God has no more use for Israel. You have to deny so many Scriptures, it’s like you just start ripping out pages out of your Bible.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, exactly.

Dennis Pollock: To come to that conclusion. To me it’s absorb.

Nathan Jones: We had a guy even e-mail in yesterday and said the modern Jewish state is a construct of the illuminati. Now, wait a minute if the whole world is supposed to be against Jerusalem at the Tribulation against the Jews, then why would the whole world then build Israel? You know? So it’s crazy. I would add too in that we talk about the nations is that during the Millennial Kingdom Jesus rules and reigns as King of Kings and Lord of Lords over all the nations who are in subject to Him, not in rebellion but in obedience. Now I don’t know about you, but you look at the world today and see the politics and how messed up it is and you’ve got to wonder: These are the nations that are subjected to Jesus Christ?

Dr. Reagan: If Jesus is reigning today over the nations of this world He’s doing a very poor job of it.

Nathan Jones: He’s totally inept.

Al Gist: That’s the truth.

Dennis Pollock: If that were the case I would be tempted to say to the Lord, “Is this the best you can do?”

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, that’s right, that’s right. Well you know the Amillennial viewpoint was not the view of the early Church Fathers all the records indicate all Pre-Millennial, but it was developed by the fellow who became the greatest Church father in terms of the impact of theology and that was St. Augustine and he did this in the 5th Century around 400 when he wrote the book, “The City of God.” And it was immediately adopted by the Church because basically what it is saying is that the kingdom promise that Jesus made to the Jewish people has now been transferred to the Church. And the Church is the Kingdom and the Church is reigning over the world today. And this was always the position of the Church that we are the ones who should have the authority because we are the Kingdom of God on earth. And that’s the reason it was adopted so quickly. And then once it was adopted during the Middle Ages and all if you took another position you were burned at the stake. So people kept their mouth shut, they didn’t talk about it, any other position. Plus the Bible was not available to people there were no printed Bibles and most people if they had one couldn’t read it anyway because they couldn’t read. So people didn’t know what the Bible said about it. So for 1,000’s of years this remained the viewpoint, the dominate viewpoint of the Church.

Dennis Pollock: Yeah. And every time the people did read the Bible and came across these passages in the Old Testament that speak about the exaltation of Israel and how God would reign among them they would just immediately transfer it to the Church.

Dr. Reagan: Well, even in 1611 when the King James translation came out if you go back and look at a 1611 translation, King James translation you will find in the Old Testament that the chapter headings which the translators put in there, they have chapter headings that say, “God’s Comfort to the Church.” Then you start reading it says, “Comfort ye Israel, comfort ye Israel.” But they put chapter headings in that made all this refer to the Church instead of to Israel.

Nathan Jones: And there is an argument to be made that we are in the spiritual kingdom of Christ. Christ when He died on the cross is to usher in His kingdom a spiritual kingdom that will come out of this world and serve Him one day. But that doesn’t mean that it’s the literal physical kingdom that the Bible also promises that is still future.

Dr. Reagan: Very good point. And it reminds me of the fact that when Jesus was ready to ascend into Heaven the disciples asked Him, “Are you going to create the kingdom now? Is this the time?” He didn’t say, “Hey, there’s not going to be any kingdom.” No. He said, “It’s not for you to know the times.”

Nathan Jones: Yeah.

Al Gist: And you know Dave the state of affairs during those early centuries of this Millennia, you know really lent support to the idea that the Church was supposed to be the recipient of all these promises. Remember when Christianity first started it was just a sect of Judaism, a minority sect that was severely persecuted by the Jewish leaders. But gradually as the Gospel spread into the Gentile nations and the Church became much more populous and then of course later on half of the Roman Empire adopted the religion of Christianity as the official state church. At the same time the Church or Christianity was growing and becoming so great, the Jews were being oppressed and they were destroyed, their temple was burnt, they were scattered around the world. So the logical conclusion is evidently God’s through with the Jews and now the Church is the new Israel, the new spiritual Israel and thus the recipient of all of those promises that God made to Israel. So there was some things happening that kind of in history that kind of lent support to this idea. Of course it’s not Biblical but again people tend to watch newspapers more then they watch the Bible.

Nathan Jones: Yeah.

Dr. Reagan: Well somebody mentioned Zechariah 14, I forget which one of you it was, where Jesus it says in verse 9, I think you mentioned it, He is going to become king over all the earth. I went to my pastor one time and I said, “You teach that Jesus is never going to put His feet on this earth again. What about Zechariah 14?” And he read it, and he read it, and he read it. Finally he turned to me and said, “Son, I’ll tell you one thing, I don’t know what this means but it don’t mean what it says.” You know that is really the problem.

Al Gist: That’s the summation, isn’t it?

Dr. Reagan: You know my rule of interpretation from beginning to end it doesn’t matter prophecy whatever, if the plain sense makes sense, don’t look for any other sense or you’ll end up with nonsense.”

Al Gist: That’s right.

Dr. Reagan: You don’t have to have a degree in hermeneutics, you have to have a Ph.D. in imagination, you just take the plain sense meaning of God’s Word.

Al Gist: And you’ve got to have a desire, study the Word, apply yourself. Apply yourself to the Word and let the Word be applied to yourself and then you’ll understand what God is saying.

Dr. Reagan: Any final comments quickly?

Dennis Pollock: Nathan? Well there’s not enough time.

Dr. Reagan: Not enough time?

Dennis Pollock: That pen is keeping me from.

Nathan Jones: I do like to bring up one little point, and that is everybody knows and they bring it up, the end of the Millennial Kingdom will see one final rebellion. One terrible time will come but Jesus will win over that as well.

Al Gist: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: Amen. And in the meantime I’m just going to shout, “Maranatha, come quickly Lord Jesus.”

Nathan Jones: Amen.

Dr. Reagan: Amen.

Closing

Nathan Jones: Gentlemen it’s been a great blessing to have you here. I’ve learned so much from you over the years and I want you to be able to share that blessing with other people. Al first could you guys tell us what is your e-mail and web address are.

Al Gist: Our web address is the same as our ministry: maranathaevangelisticministries.com, all one word.

Dennis Pollock: And our website is spiritofgrace.org. All the contact information is in it and we’ve got a little sign in form where you can get stuff from us every week.

Dr. Reagan: Well, thanks fellas I really appreciate you being on the program. Folks, that’s our program for this week. And I hope it’s been a blessing to you and I hope you’ll be back with us again next week. Until then this is Dave Reagan speaking for Nathan Jones and myself saying, “Look up, be watchful for our redemption is drawing near.”

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