David Reagan on Book Israel in Bible Prophecy

Part 1

Dr. Reagan: Greetings in the name of Jesus, our Blessed Hope and welcome to Christ in Prophecy. Those of you who are regular viewers are probably wondering why in the world I am sitting in this chair where our guests normally sit. Well, the reason is because my colleague, Nathan Jones, is going to interview me today about my latest book. So, he insisted that I sit in the hot seat.

Nathan Jones: Well, yes, folks, I am going to be asking Dave some questions today about his latest book, this one, called “Israel in Bible Prophecy: Past, Present & Future.” Wow, Dave, 15 books, not counting all the ones that you’ve had revised editions. How long did it take you to write such a book?

Dr. Reagan: Well, I am going to answer that philosophically.

Nathan Jones: Philosophically, OK.

Dr. Reagan: OK. For many years my wife and I’ve had a hobby; and the hobby is collecting southwestern art. We specialize in collecting landscapes that have Spanish missions in them. And we’ve done this for many, many years. And during the time I’ve gotten acquainted with many artist in the New Mexico area, that is primarily where we get these paintings is out of Santa Fe and Taos. And one of the painters that we collected several paintings from was a man by the name of Carlos Hall who lived in Taos. And one time we were in Taos on vacation and I just picked up the phone and called him. And I said, “Sir, we have several of your paintings. Is there any possibility we could meet you?” He said, “Oh, yeah.” He was very gracious. He said, “Come on out. I’d love to meet you.” Well, I didn’t realize how gracious he was because he was 65 years old and dying when we got there. He had emphysema, he could hardly breath. He had to have an oxygen mask on all the time. And he was so gracious, he showed us all over his house. He took us across to his studio and showed us his studio. And while we were viewing his studio he had a magnificent painting, a huge painting of a Taos Indian on horseback. And I asked him, I said, “Mr. Hall, how long did it take you to paint that painting?” And he looked at it for a moment, and he looked at me and he said, “Sixty-five years.” And knew immediately what he meant. That this was a painting he could not of painted ten years ago. It was his entire life. His experiences. His experiences with the Indians there. His experience in painting and developing his skills over a long period of time. His whole life was into that painting. And that is the deal with this book. I first became interested in Bible prophecy in 1967 when the Six Day War was going on and I started studying it. And I’ve been studying Bible prophecy intensely for 50 years. And during that time I have been to Israel almost 50 times. I’ve become acquainted with the land. I’ve become acquainted with the people. I’ve become personally acquainted with Jewish people, with both believers and non-believers. And all of that experience, and all of that study went into the production of this book. This was a work of love. And it is a book I couldn’t have written 10 years ago, or 15 years ago, or 20 years ago, it’s 50 years of work.

Nathan Jones: Fifty-years of work. I used to live in Philadelphia and I had many Messianic Jewish friends, met many Messianic Jewish Ministries. And yet, they didn’t seem to have the passion that you have for Israel. Honest to goodness. His passion for Israel is unbelievable. You love the Jewish people.

Dr. Reagan: I do.

Nathan Jones: And every page of this book seems to show your love for the Jewish people, such an easy read.

Dr. Reagan: Well I love them because God loves them passionately.

Nathan Jones: That you do. That you do. Now you say the purpose if you go into the front here at the preface, you say, “The purpose for this book, this book will clearly show that God has also been faithful in fulling the prophecy He has given to the Jewish prophets concerning the future of their people to this day. And because of that we can be assured that God will fulfill all the prophecies concerning Israel that are yet future, and the prophecies yet to be fulfilled are mind boggling. And by the time I was done this book, my mind was boggling. And I’ve been reading this stuff for your years, you’ve made it so easy to understand. Would you agree? That’s the purpose of this your book to show how important Israel is in Bible prophecy.

Dr. Reagan: Yes, that’s the purpose. And I focused on them because that’s what end time Bible prophecy focuses on is the people of Israel, the nation of Israel. And one of the reasons for that is because the Church is going to be taken out in the Rapture before the Tribulation begins. So the entire focus of God shifts from the Church to the Jewish people. And His purpose in regathering them, His purpose in bringing the world against them is not because He hates the Jewish people, but because He loves them so much He wants to bring them to the end of themselves where they will finally look upon Him whom they’ve pierced, weep, and wail and mourn and receive Yeshua as their Messiah.

Nathan Jones: Amen.

Dr. Reagan: So, God is working out a great plan among the Jewish people. End time Bible prophecy focuses on them and that is the reason I wrote this book.

Nathan Jones: Now, a lot of people in Christendom would disagree with you. They would say Israel has no place at all. Would you say that this book is also a treaties against what is called Replacement Theology; that the Church has replaced Israel?

Dr. Reagan: Absolutely. That is just one of the worst doctrines that ever came into the history of the church. And the Bible specifically refutes it in Romans 9-11, all three chapters make it very clear, God still loves the Jewish people, He still has a purpose for the Jewish people, and He is going to bring a great remnant to salvation in the end times. And yet the Church for 2,000 years has taught that God washed His hands of the Jewish people because they killed Jesus. And yet in Acts, the book of Acts we are told point blank, that those who killed Jesus were: Herod, Pontius Pilot, the Gentiles, and the Jews, you and me.

Nathan Jones: Everybody, you and me.

Dr. Reagan: All of us have the blood of Jesus on our hands because He died for our sins.

Nathan Jones: Well, you know what is funny that the church is always willing to take the blessings of Israel, but they’re never willing to take the curses.

Dr. Reagan: Oh yeah, we want all the blessings, we don’t want any of the curses, that’s for sure.

Nathan Jones: And when I look at how you divided the book up because you divided it up to four different prophecies that fulfilled in the past, seven that are happening here in the present the 20th Century, and then one that is future. And it looks like the four that you gave in the past were all curses upon Israel. Would you mind listing the four that you went through dealing with pre-20th Century?

Dr. Reagan: Yes, God warned the Jewish people over and over through Moses before they went into the land that if they were not faithful He would send prophets to warn them, and He would send remedial judgments. And He said, “If you refuse to repent the ultimate judgment will be your expulsion from the land. You’ll still own it. It will still be yours but you will not be able to enjoy it, I will expel you.” And so the first one is the worldwide dispersion of the Jews. Specifically prophesied. Specifically fulfilled. By the beginning of the 20th Century Jews in every continent. Second the relentless persecution of the Jews. Again God said, “Where ever you go you’re going to be persecuted.” And they were where ever they went.

Nathan Jones: Everywhere.

Dr. Reagan: The miraculous preservation of the Jews. To me one of the greatest miracles of history is that these people can be dispersed all over the world, and yet preserve their identity. No other people have been able to do that. And then finally the desolation of the land. The land became totally desolate just as God said it was. And He had a purpose for that because it was a land nobody wanted. And He said, “When the Jews come back it will become like the Garden of Eden.”

Nathan Jones: Which do you say is the most astounding of those four?

Dr. Reagan: The preservation of the Jewish people, it is just unbelievable.

Nathan Jones: The preservations of the Jews.

Part 2

Nathan Jones: Welcome back to my interview of Dr. Reagan concerning his latest book, “Israel in Bible Prophecy.” He has just surveyed for us four prophecies that were fulfilled among the Jewish people before the 20th Century began. And I want us to look now at the second section of the book where he discusses seven prophecies that were fulfilled in whole or in part during the 20th Century. So, Dave tell us about what are the seven prophecies, we went through the four curses, but these all appear to be seven blessings to Israel.

Dr. Reagan: Yes, these are incredible prophecies. And you know Nathan, the thing that’s so exciting about these is that we are living in a time where we can see them fulfilled.

Nathan Jones: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: I mean we are living in the most exciting time since the First Coming of Jesus. And now we are seeing prophecies given over 2,000 years ago that are being fulfilled in minute detail before our very eyes.

Nathan Jones: I remember being a little kid and I was thinking, “Man, this is the most boring time. If I lived during the time of the Knights or the Revolutionary War.” And then I went to college and I started you know getting a bigger picture of the world, I’m like, Oh, my word we are living in probably one of the most exciting time periods in all of history.

Dr. Reagan: That’s right. And the most important one of the seven is the very first one because it is the one that lead to everything else. And that is the regathering of the Jewish people from the four corners of the earth.

Nathan Jones: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: Now this is prophesied over, and over in the Hebrew Scriptures. And one of the interesting things about it is that quite often when I mention this to people today who don’t know Bible prophecy, or who are into Replacement Theology they say, “Well, come on this can’t be some fulfillment of prophecy because the Jewish people are still unbelievers.” I said, “Well, it says they’re going to be regathered in unbelief.” And they’ll say, “Why would God do that?” I said, “It’s called grace.” It’s grace. He is pursuing them just as He pursued you. He pursued me. And I ran from Him hard He had to hit me over the head with a 2×4 to get my attention. But the regathering of the Jewish people. And in fact there is a verse, two verses in Jeremiah that are repeated.

Nathan Jones: Jeremiah 16, right?

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, and 23.

Nathan Jones: Verse 14 and 15.

Dr. Reagan: And it says that when the Jewish people look back on their history they will know when it is all over and done. And they look back on their history they will no longer swear by the God who delivered them from Egyptian captivity, but will swear by the God who regathered them from the four corners of the earth. That means it’s the same God, but it means that they are going to consider the regathering to be a greater miracle than the deliverance from Egyptian captivity. And you and I are living to see it with our own eyes.

Nathan Jones: Well, I mean how many people who haven’t had a nation for over 1,900 years have kept their cultural identity? They haven’t–I mean people come to the United States, we are big melting pot, they lose their culture and identity, but not the Jewish people. Nineteen-hundred years later they have a nation, and they’re still Jewish they still follow the Law.

Dr. Reagan: And you look in the Bible everybody is against them: the Ammonites, the Hittites, you know it goes on and on. In Texas we say everybody but the chigger bites were against them.

Nathan Jones: The chigger bites, yeah.

Dr. Reagan: But, and all the great empires the Egyptian Empire, the Babylonian, the Assyrian all were rampaging around Israel. And where are they today? In the dustbin of history. And where are the Jewish people? Back in the Land. It’s a miracle of God.

Nathan Jones: And it has Satan terrified, clearly it does.

Dr. Reagan: And that set up all the fulfillment of all these other prophecies. They came back so the very first thing as a result of that is the re-establishment of the State of Israel, which is prophesied in the Scriptures that one day the state will be re-established. And that occurred on May the 14th, 1948.

Nathan Jones: And it was a special birth right? Where the labor pains happen after the birth, not before.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, yes. It said it will be a special birth in the sense that the labor pains will come afterwards. And it said, “What woman has every experienced that?” And that is exactly what happened. They declared the independence, the next day Arab nations attacked. And they’ve been attacking ever since then with the purpose of annihilating the State of Israel. So, yeah, you’re right about that. And the re-establishment of the state, you know I just get goosebumps every time I go to Independence Hall in Tel Aviv. And I’ve been there many times but it is just, you are in a place where Bible prophecy was fulfilled. And it’s amazing that 95% of all the groups that go to Israel never go to Independence Hall.

Nathan Jones: That’s a shame, because the Hittites they are not a nation again, the Aztecs, the Mayans.

Dr. Reagan: No, no.

Nathan Jones: But the nation of the Bible is back again, that’s important.

Dr. Reagan: That’s right. And then the third one I look at is the revival of the Hebrew language, wow! I could go on all day about that. Let me go ahead and mention the others. Another one is the reclamation of the Land, which had become totally desolate and God said, “When you come back it will become like the Garden of Eden.” And it has.

Nathan Jones: Oh, it’s beautiful.

Dr. Reagan: Another one the resurgence of the Israel military. It says in the end times the Israeli military will be like David against Goliath. And that’s one of the tiniest nations in the world with one of the most effective militaries. And another one is the reoccupation of the City of Jerusalem which occurred on June the 6th, 1967. And finally the refocusing of world politics on Israel. And Israel is the focus of world politics. There are more international correspondence in Jerusalem than any other city in the world. Anything that happens there is headlines. Those are the seven prophecies that were fulfilled in whole or in part during the 20th Century.

Nathan Jones: Back to what you said about the reclamation of the land. Now, I don’t think people understand how important this is because when the Romans destroyed Israel in 70 AD they deforested the place, they destroyed it, they dispersed the Jews. And then they renamed it later on into Palestine. And literally for 2,000 years you could count the trees for taxation purposes, right?

Dr. Reagan: Well, particularly after the Turks took over in the 1500’s, the Turks ruled the land for 400 years. And they began to tax trees. I hope our government never hears about that. Because the people started cutting down the trees to cut down their– By the time the Jews started coming back in the 1900’s there were no trees south of the Sea of Galilee. Only 17,000 trees left in the whole country.

Nathan Jones: And they know those numbers as a fact.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah. And the country was malaria infested swamp lands. The people who lived there if you asked them, “What are you?” They would have all said, “I’m a Syrian.” That is how they considered. And they’re hardly anybody living there. They were absentee landlords renting out land to people who were about to starve to death. Nobody wanted this godforsaken land. But God said, “I’m going to preserve it for you. And when you come back it will become like the Garden of Eden.” They came back. They drained the malaria infested swamps. They began to plant trees. They planted over 200 million trees in the 20th Century alone.

Nathan Jones: You planted a few of them yourself.

Dr. Reagan: That is a tremendous ecological affects, you know?

Nathan Jones: The temperature, right, went down?

Dr. Reagan: Oh, yeah. The rainfall came up.

Nathan Jones: The rain came in.

Dr. Reagan: It was just unbelievable what happened when they began to come back and rehabilitate this land. Just as God said.

Nathan Jones: I love the drive when you go to Tel Aviv up to Haifa. It is like driving thru a botanical garden.

Dr. Reagan: You are driving thru the Sharon Valley.

Nathan Jones: There’s flowers. There’s trees. There’s dates.

Dr. Reagan: There are flowers, and banana plantations, cotton.

Nathan Jones: I went and picked an orange off a tree once. I mean God brought the fruit back to the land. And now isn’t Israel the breadbasket of the Middle East?

Dr. Reagan: And they claim the Jews came back and stole the land from them.

Nathan Jones: They did not.

Dr. Reagan: They sold that land to the Jews for exuberant prices and laughed all the way to the bank that these crazy Jews wanted this land.

Part 3

Nathan Jones: Welcome back to our discussion of Dr. Reagan’s new book, “Israel in Bible Prophecy.” Dave, we’ve been to the past. We’re at the present. But what lies for the future of Israel?

Dr. Reagan: Well, the future of Israel there is very bad news, and some spectacular good news.

Nathan Jones: OK.

Dr. Reagan: The bad news comes first. The bad news is that there is some war involved in the future of Israel, a lot of war. Possibly the war of Psalm 83 I think is most likely a war that will kind of happen pretty soon.

Nathan Jones: Where Israel deals with its bordering neighbors.

Dr. Reagan: All the ones it has a common border with. And the reason I believe that is because the war that is detailed is the war called the War of Gog and Magog over in Ezekiel 38. It involves nations that are on the outer periphery of Israel, doesn’t mention a single nation that it has a common border with. So, I think in Psalm 83 it calls it the war of annihilation against Israel. And I think Israel will defeat all those nations. And then I think the Arabs of the Middle East will cry out for Russia to come to their defense, and the Russians will come down with the outer perimeter in the War of Gog and Magog. And it says that with that huge force coming in God will supernaturally destroy them on the hills of Israel in such a way that even the Jewish people will realize it came from God.

Nathan Jones: That’s the event that brings the Jewish people back to God. Not necessarily Christ, but to God, right?

Dr. Reagan: Yes. I think their hearts will begin to turn to God. And then of course the Tribulation, we don’t know for sure when the War of Gog and Magog will occur. Some put it in the Tribulation. I think it is going to occur, start before the Tribulation. But nonetheless when the Antichrist signs a covenant with Israel, I think what’s going to happen is that first of all here’s what I think: The Rapture is going to occur. The world is going to go into absolute chaos. The Antichrist is going to arise, he is going to have the answer to all the questions. He’ll arise peacefully in Europe, take over Europe. He will by that time the Arab world will be decimated by the wars of Psalm 38, and the War of Gog and Magog. So, he will go–he will settle the situation in the Middle East by making a covenant with Israel. And when he makes that covenant the Tribulation begins.

Nathan Jones: Begins. Seven years.

Dr. Reagan: And then he will launch his campaign to conquer the rest of the world in the wars of the Seal Judgments, and the Trumpet Judgments. And during that time Israel will be protected by the Antichrist until the middle of the Tribulation. They will look upon him as a savior. But in the middle of the Tribulation when he goes to Jerusalem and declares himself god, they will have nothing to do with him. They will turn against him. They will revolt against him because they know he is not god.

Nathan Jones: He desecrates the Temple.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, desecrates their Temple.

Nathan Jones: Which means the third Temple needs to be built, right?

Dr. Reagan: And then he becomes obsessed. I think he’s possessed by Satan, he becomes obsessed during the last 3 ½ years with totally annihilating the Jewish people from the face of the earth. Satan hates the Jewish people. He hates them because God used them to give the world the Bible, give the world the Messiah. They’re the chosen people of God. God is determined to bring a great remnant to salvation. He doesn’t want a single Jew saved. So, he is going to try to annihilate them, but he will not succeed.

Nathan Jones: How many will die?

Dr. Reagan: Well it says two-thirds of them will die during that time according to Zechariah.

Nathan Jones: So about 14 million.

Dr. Reagan: So, there is going to be a terrible carnage. But here’s the good news. It says it will bring them to the end of themselves. At the end of the Tribulation they will look upon Him whom they’ve pierced, they will weep, and wail and mourn. They will receive Yeshua as their Messiah to the everlasting glory of God. He will regather all the Jewish people who are believers back to Israel. Jesus will reign as King of kings, and Lord of lords from Mount Zion. The blessings of God will flow thru Israel throughout all the world. You and I and others in our glorified bodies will be scattered around the world to reign over those in natural bodies. And it says that the Jews will be so highly honored during that time, that when a Jew walks by ten Gentiles will grab his robe and say, “May we walk with you, because we know God is with you.” Think of what a difference that is today. Today the Jew is the object of scorn, ridicule, jokes, persecution, murder, but during the millennial reign of Jesus he will be honored. And God will fulfill all the promises during that time that He has made to the Jewish people. And their nation will be the prime nation of the world.

Nathan Jones: That’s amazing. So, Jesus Christ will have His capital in Jerusalem?

Dr. Reagan: That’s right. He will be reigning from Mount Zion in Jerusalem. David in his glorified body will be reigning as the king of Jerusalem. And all the blessings of God which are going to be many during that millennial time are going to flow thru the Jewish nation out to all the nations of the world. Now, why in the world should any Christian be concerned about all that? You know why should a Gentile Christian be concerned the least about what is going on in Israel today? What God is doing among the Jewish people?

Nathan Jones: They are not concerned.

Dr. Reagan: Well, that’s the last part of my book.

Nathan Jones: OK, well when we come back let’s answer that.

Dr. Reagan: Alright.

Part 4

Nathan Jones: We’ve been discussing Dr. Reagan’s new book about the Bible’s end time prophecy regarding the Jewish people. And we’ve look at four prophecies fulfilled before the 20th Century began. Seven prophecies fulfilled in whole or in part during the 20th Century. And finally the prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled. Dave, so let’s get back to your question: Why in the world would Gentile Christians be interested in what’s going on in Israel? I think the answer should be pretty obvious after all we’ve discussed, but go ahead and tell us.

Dr. Reagan: Well, there are many reasons. And that’s how I end the book because I’m sure that the average Gentile Christian particularly if they’re caught up in Replacement Theology they are going to wonder why in the world should I be concerned about the Jewish people?

Nathan Jones: Yeah.

Dr. Reagan: Well, for one thing it is proof positive that God exists. I think this people say you can’t prove that God exists. Well I disagree with that. There are many proofs of God of course. But one that is very, very important is the fulfillment of Bible prophecy. There is no other book in the world that contains prophecy that has been fulfilled. There is none in the Book of Mormon. There is none in the Koran. There is none in the Hindu Vedras. But there is here, hundreds of prophecies that have already been fulfilled in history concerning individual cities, empires. But concerning the Jewish people very specific prophecies. We’re not talking about gobbledygook prophecies like you read in Nostradamus, they’re just nonsense sayings that you can take and say, “Oh, well, I think that applies to Hitler,” or whatever. No, these are specific. God says, “I will disperse you all over the world if you’re not faithful.” “I will preserve you.” “You’re language will be revived in the end times,” and so forth. And these are specifically fulfilled, its evidence that God exists. And secondly it’s evidence that the Bible is the Word of God.

Nathan Jones: Amen. Amen.

Dr. Reagan: You see today probably 80% or more seminaries teach that this book right here is not really God’s revealed word. It is man’s search for God, and therefore it is full of myth and legend, and superstition. Or it is something that can be relied on only as it applies to theology, but not to history or geography, or anything like that. No, I believe that it is inerrant. In it says it is the Word of God, it says it over, and over. How could it not be inerrant if it’s the Word of God? How can God make a mistake? And Bible prophecy, fulfillment of detailed prophecies given thousands of years ago is proof positive not only that God exists, but that the Bible is the Word of God. Now, that’s just two of several things why I think the Gentiles should be concerned about what God is doing among the Jewish people. Another one is that what God is doing among the Jewish people is proof positive that God is a faithful God; that when He makes a promise He is going to keep it. Thousands of years ago He said, “In the end times I will regather you in unbelief.” He did. “Your nation will be re-established.” Yes. “You will be put back into your city of Jerusalem.” That happened. “You’re language will be revived.” I mean the language that had not been spoken for 2,000 years. People don’t understand that. That when the Jews were dispersed the Jews that went to Europe took Hebrew mixed it with German and came up with a language called Yiddish. The ones that went to the Mediterranean rim they took Hebrew mixed it with Spanish and came up with a language called Ladino. For 2,000 years Hebrew was spoken only in the synagogue when the rabbi would read it. And often he didn’t even understand it, he read it phonetically. And it was like going to a Catholic Mass that was conducted in Latin and nobody knew what was going on.

Nathan Jones: Yeah, like we’re all speaking Latin today.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah. And yet God revived that language through a man named Eliezer BenYehuda, one of the greatest miracles of history. And there is a street named after Eliezer BenYehuda in almost every city in Israel today. God is faithful, when He makes a promise He fulfills it. We’re seeing promise, after promise, after promise fulfilled. And do you know why that should get a Gentile Christian excited? Because God has made a lot of promises to the Church.

Nathan Jones: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: And it means just as He has been faithful in fulfilling these He is going to fulfill every promise He’s made to the Church. He has promised that one day soon Jesus is going to appear in the heavens. There is going to be a shout of an archangel, the blowing of a trumpet. The dead in Christ are going to be resurrected. The living in Christ are not even going to experience death, they are going to go up and be translated on the way up. We are going to go back to Heaven with the Lord. We are going to be judged of our works, not to determine our salvation but our degrees of reward. We are going to receive those rewards. We are going to sit down at a feast with Jesus and celebrate our union with Him. And the end He is going to say, “Let’s go.” And we’re going to get up and return with Him. We’re going to come back. We are going to see Him when He comes back to the Mount of Olives. We are going to be there to shout, “Hallelujah. Hosanna to the Son of David.” We are going to see Him crowned as King of kings, and Lord of lords. We are going to see Him reigning over all the world. We are going to experience that reign; a reign of 1,000 years of perfect peace, righteousness, and justice. These are the promises to us. And that we will live with God the Father, and God the Son forever on a New Earth. I can see Him fulfilling these promises to the Jews, I know He’s going to fulfill every promise He’s made to you and me. And finally another thing I would mention it is a demonstration of the meaning of grace.

Nathan Jones: Grace, all throughout the book.

Dr. Reagan: The Jewish people are the most rebellious people on planet earth. Their own prophets say it. They are stiff-necked. They are strong-willed. They’re hard headed. That’s their own prophets saying this. And yet God has never given up on them. He pursues them, and pursues them, and pursues the, and pursues them because He’s determined to bring a great remnant to salvation. That’s grace. They are a witness of the grace of God. And finally I think that what God is doing among the Jewish people is overwhelming evidence that you and I are living in the season of the Lord’s return. Because all of these prophecies are being fulfilled before our very eyes. They are all coming together, convergence, as never before. And there is just no doubt that we are living in the final days. That Jesus is at the very door of Heaven waiting for the Lord’s command to step out on the cloud and to come for His Church.

Nathan Jones: You open the very first paragraph, “God’s love for the Jewish people is clearly demonstrated in the chronicle of His faithfulness of fulfilling the promises contained in the prophecies that He has given them through their prophets. It is a story of amazing grace, and that’s why it is so important to the Church.” You start with grace. You end the book with grace. Is it a book then about the grace to Gentiles? Are you trying to convince Gentiles that Israel is important? Or are you trying to convince Jews that Israel is important?

Dr. Reagan: Yeah.

Nathan Jones: Are you trying to convince us that God’s grace extends to everybody, not just us?

Dr. Reagan: That’s true. And just Replacement Theology is so awful in that is says, “God washed His hand of the Jewish people. He has no purpose for them.” And He could not–what’s happening in Israel today could not be of God because these people are stubborn and unbelieving. And that is just as wrong as it can be. God never gives up on anybody. He pursues, and pursues, and pursues because He does not wish that any should be lost, but all should come to repentance. And that’s the only reasons He’s delayed the return of Jesus Christ.

Nathan Jones: Amen. Well what a great, let’s end on that. Folks, our time is up. I hope this discussion with Dr. Reagan has been a blessing to you and I hope you will be back with us next week. Until then, this is Nathan Jones speaking for Lamb & Lion Ministries saying, “Look up, be watchful, for our redemption is drawing near.”

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