Finally, the Book of Revelation Made Easy

Part 1

Dave Bowen: It’s great to be back, but I have to say, I’m used to being on that side of the table, not on this side of the table.

Tim Moore: Yeah, you’re in what we always call, “The hot seat,” and we’re going to put you in it today, brother.

Dave Bowen: Oh boy!

Tim Moore: Because we’re going to ask you about the book that you’ve written about Revelation, obviously taking a deep dive, and that’s something our viewers are familiar with. You offer deep dives to our readers and to our viewers from time to time through your teaching. But today, we’re going to take a deep dive into your book.

Dave Bowen: Right! Well, the key to this book is I understand how people are afraid of this book. They don’t understand it. When I ask Christians, “What do you think about the last book of the Bible?” I mean, it opens and closes with a blessing.

Nathan Jones: Yes!

Dave Bowen: God would not give us a blessing. In fact, 1:3 is a double blessing for those who hear it, understand it, you know, apply it. People wouldn’t read it. I go, “God would not give us a blessing and then make it hard to understand.” So I did a deep dive into this book and I realized you really don’t understand this, the last book of the Bible, unless you understand the rest of the Bible.

Tim Moore: And so the title of your book, speaking of the last book, is Finally, the Book of Revelation Made Easy.

Dave Bowen: Yes!

Tim Moore: And we’re going to hold you to that challenge, Dave.

Dave Bowen: Okay, I’m ready for that!

Tim Moore: We’ll see if you’re ready to do that.

Nathan Jones: Well, even the subtitle, You Can’t Understand the Last Book of the Bible Unless You Understand the Rest of the Book. So is that the key? Because, you know, we hear all the time here at Lamb & Lion Ministries, “Now, Revelation is just so hard to understand. There’s so much symbolism. And, you know, is it past tense? Is it future tense and all?” How did you crack the code? How did you make the book easy?

Dave Bowen: Well, okay, let’s look at chapter one. Just in chapter one, it talks about Jesus, but it says, “His eyes are like blazing fire, His feet of bronze, His voice is like the sound of rushing water, His mouth is a double-edged sword, and His face shines like the sun.” That’s a great description, but you do not understand that that’s His presence, His judgment, His authority, and His blessing unless you get the Old Testament.

Example! “His eyes like the blazing fire.” You need Psalm 21, you need Isaiah 10, you need Daniel 7, you need Ezekiel 20. They explain what that means. So you take that in context and you bring it over Revelation, you know it’s talking about His presence, the presence of God. You look at His feet of bronze. Well, that’s judgment in the Old Testament. So we see that He’s coming as a judge. We look at His voice being like rushing water. Isaiah 17, it talks about the authority. So without the Old Testament, you do not get that clear picture of who Jesus is.

Tim Moore: I love the fact that you tie all of these word pictures, and that’s what John is using, back to other segments of Scripture. There’s a beautiful graphic that’s been produced in the last few years showing how verses throughout the Book of Revelation tie back to other books of the Bible, Old Testament, New Testament. Dare I say, there are more connections between Revelation and all the rest of Scripture than virtually any other single book of Scripture, and so, it is beautifully tied together.

I used the word tapestry early, Nathan. I love that representation, because a weaver brings all these loose threads and puts them together in a way that if you see the front of the tapestry, you get a clear picture. If you look at the back, sometimes you see all the knots and the loose ends, we would say. One of these days we’ll see the whole tapestry from the front side as God has seen it. Right now, sometimes, we’re looking through a glass dimly.

Dave Bowen: Right!

Tim Moore: But you have brought out so much in your book about the Book of Revelation. Do you find that what we refer to often as the table of contents still has value? We refer people to 1:19.

Nathan Jones: Verse 19, yeah.

Tim Moore: Where the Lord says, “Therefore write the things which you have seen, the things which are, and the things which will take place after these things.” But even as he’s describing, John is using other Scripture to bring out what he has seen.

Dave Bowen: Right, and we know chapter one is things that were. We know that chapters two and three is what’s happening now, the age we’re in now. And from four on is still yet to happen. So we know that’s yet to be seen.

But you asked the question, “Why do this?” The people not understanding the Book of Revelation bothered me as a pastor. When they say, “Oh that’s too scary. That’s too hard to read.” That bothered me.

But what really puzzled me was the Jewish people. Because we know in the End Times, the Jews there’s going to be…many will be saved. Zechariah, Old Testament, says 2/3 won’t survive. That means 1/3 will not only survive, but they will be believers, because you cannot go in the millennial unless you’re a believer. How does that happen?

Tim Moore: Hmm…

Dave Bowen: You know, we’ve been to Israel many, many times. It’s 2% Christian! The Holy Land’s not holy. How does that happen? And that really puzzled me. Well, when you look at the Old Testament, easy example. It says, “He who has ears, let him hear.” Okay, to us, Gentiles, what does that mean? It means listen, you know? Just listen to what I’m saying.

To a Jewish mind, it doesn’t mean that. Because you go back, they take you, they go all the way back to Mount Gerizim and Mount Ebal, and Moses taking all of Israel up to the mountain, reading the law to them and saying, “I lay before you life and death, blessings and cursing’s. Choose life!” So what does that mean? He who has ears, if you want to be blessed, then you follow God’s Word and you live by it. That’s how a Jewish person is going to incorporate that line.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen! Again, you and I think, “Okay, another president did something, another ministry leader did something.” You know? To the Jewish mind, it goes back to Saul. Okay, Saul was king. He lost that position. Why? He sinned against God. So in context, how do the mighty fall? You have to sin against God. So the amazing thing is, you and I, we will read the Bible, we will study the Bible. The Jewish people won’t.

I think in the Tribulation period, which I think the majority of the audience, the Tribulation will be Jewish, not all, but the majority, they’re going to experience it. What happens, they’re going to experience it. And when they experience it, they’re going to say, “Oh my goodness, this goes back here. This goes back here.” And they will know it in context. And that’s how they’re going to come to know Christ.

Tim Moore: You know, I appreciate what you say. “In context!”

Dave Bowen: In context!

Tim Moore: And people often ask me, they probably ask both of you when we’re out speaking, coming to conferences, and maybe at a local church, “What version of the Bible do you use?” And I tell them, “Well, I use a New American Standard, because I think it is the most literal.”
We’ve gotten to where we oftentimes will use the Legacy Standard because it takes the original names of God and puts them back in instead of the word Lord, all in capitals, or capital L-O-R-D, small. So they use Yahweh and Adonai, and they use words that to the Jewish mind were the given name of God.

But the only thing that I like in my Bible when I’m studying the Word of God is a concordance. And man, I can’t read a passage without flipping all back to see the other verses and how they tie in. And over time, as I’ve been studying for many, many years, my own mind goes to those other verses. But that’s the only thing I will allow to interfere with my reading of a given passage, and it’s not an interference, it’s actually illuminating a passage, is by going back and reading others.

And it gets to where, even in my own case, I used to make a lot of speeches in my legislative role. And my Christian friends, if they were in that place, would say, “I could hear you weaving Scripture throughout your presentation.” Because I can’t help but speak in Scripture. And I think that’s exactly what John is doing. He is weaving Scripture throughout his narrative of what he’s seeing in Revelation.

But folks, if you are wondering, “What Bible should I read?” One that you have! Obviously, I think there are certain translations that are better. But make sure you’re interpreting Scripture with Scripture first and foremost, and then yes, using other resources as able.

Nathan Jones: Well, Dave, you brought up a point about how the Old Testament explains Revelation. I think Revelation has well over 300 references to the Old Testament that helps you understand it. That’s one way. Now, how do you deal then with the symbols in the Book of Revelation? Take for instance, where Jesus talks or He walks among the seven lamp stands and He holds the seven stars. How are we supposed to understand that?

Dave Bowen: Well, again, that would be the day we’re in now. So that would be about the churches. So are they elders? Are they the pastors of the church? They could be either one. But again, it’s a scroll! So whoever hears this and speaks it, so as the scrolls are being passed around to the seven churches, someone would have to read it.

Who would be the reader in the church? Would it be the elder? Would it be the pastor? But you would have that read and you would have it heard. It wasn’t like they could take the Bible that we have today and read that. So that’s the day we’re living in now.

Tim Moore: But I think sometimes what Nathan is getting at, Revelation interprets Revelation, so.

Nathan Jones: Yeah, I mean, the next verse, it says…

Tim Moore: In the case that people say, “I don’t know what he’s talking about with these stars and with the lamp stands.” Well, go to Revelation 1:20, and it says, “As for the mystery of the stars and the lamp stands, this is what they are.” So it interprets itself oftentimes.

Dave Bowen: Scripture interprets Scripture. And from chapter four on is when people really get confused. That’s when you need the Old Testament.

Nathan Jones: Well, look at the Revelation 12, the great sign of Revelation 12 with the moon and the stars and, you know, the woman having the child and the beast. And people are like, “Oh, that’s so confusing.” And there’s whole video documentaries about stars lining up in the sky a certain way and all. And yet you only have to go back to the Old Testament, read the life of Joseph, the dream Joseph had, his mother, father.

Tim Moore: Exactly.

Nathan Jones: The sun and the moon.

Tim Moore: Yeah, let’s dig into that for just a moment.

Nathan Jones: The stars are! The Bible interprets the Bible.

Dave Bowen: It does!

Nathan Jones: I think you nailed it there. The key to understand the Book of Revelation is understanding the Bible.

Dave Bowen: Yeah!

Nathan Jones: But to just jump into Revelation without reading the rest of the Bible is a problem. It’s kind of like getting a mystery book and you read the last chapter. You have no idea how the detective, we saw a “Columbo” this weekend, well, that was slow, but eventually got to the end of it, you know, but you had to go through it to understand what the ending is.

Dave Bowen: Yeah!

Nathan Jones: Are you saying then that as we study the Book of Revelation it’s very important we read the other 65 books first?

Dave Bowen: I think it’s nearly impossible to understand Revelation without doing that. That’s why I’m saying you have to; in order to understand the last book, you have to understand the rest of the book. And people who want to jump to the last book of the Bible. You just won’t understand it.

Tim Moore: And so, quite frankly, there is a blessing for those who read, and dare I say, study. You know, I think in our modern culture, whether as Westerners, Americans, we talk generationally, we have very short attention spans. And Nathan, you used a phrase in a recent episode where you said, “I’ll give you the Cliff Notes version.”

Nathan Jones: Yeah!

Tim Moore: And people say, “Just give me the Cliff Notes.” You want the Cliff Notes? God wins and we reign with Him. That’s it! But there’s more to it for those who have inquiring minds. And we’ve been involved in an inquiring mind series, because a lot of people want to know, they want to take a deep dive.

So if you want to understand the Book of Revelation and the rest of Scripture, you first of all have to read it! But you have to read more than just the very passage that you’re inquisitive about. You have to read much more, and then the Holy Spirit will illuminate it to you.

Nathan Jones: Because that ties to your thesis. You have to read the Old Testament and the New Testament to understand the Book of Revelation. You have to read Revelation and wait for it to interpret the signs. But when it comes to interpreting Revelation, I think this is where people jump off the rails. What do you believe? Should they interpret it literally or symbolically?

Dave Bowen: Well, that goes back to the School of Antioch or the School of Alexandria. Because when you look at the disciples, you have Jesus, disciples, even to the Church fathers. But when the disciples, when they had to flee Jerusalem, where did they go? They went up to Syria, to Antioch. There they taught the literal interpretation of the Bible. Down in Alexandria, they went metaphorical with that.

So you talk about the four rivers we talk about in Genesis over in Mesopotamia. They would say, “It’s not exciting, but there’s four rivers over there.” The literal Bible. Down in Alexandria, the School of Alexandria, they would say, “Well, it’s not about rivers, it’s about the four aspects of the human soul.”

Nathan Jones: Oh my goodness!

Dave Bowen: You know, well, that’s interesting. I want to hear that. Tell me more about that! Well, it’s all metaphorical. It has nothing to do with Scripture. And the scary thing is the School of Alexandria, that lasted about 1,200 years. Take us to the Reformation period, and still lasts somewhat today.

Nathan Jones: Most churches!

Dave Bowen: Yeah, the school of, in the north, in Syria, that lasts about 200 years where the Bible was literal. When Paul came out of Arabia in Galatians, where did he go? He went to the north; he went to Syria. He went to the School of Antioch.

Nathan Jones: So would you say then that literal interpretation is the only way to interpret? Bearing in mind, of course, symbols are interpreted, literary devices are interpreted. I think we love the Golden Rule of Interpretation around here: If the plain sense makes sense, look for no other sense, lest you come with nonsense.

The fourth thing that I would question you about, how we can understand the Book of Revelation rather, is the timeframe. Because when people take the Daniel 70th Week prophecy, the seven year Tribulation, and the Book of Revelation says seven years or two 3 1/2 year periods, it puts it in a timeframe that we can grasp and understand. Those ministries that teach revelation outside of the 70th week of Daniel are applying the red horse is communism, and the… You know, they get all these spiritualized interpretations.

Tim Moore: Yes, they do.

Nathan Jones: Do you believe that Daniel’s 70th Week prophecy encompasses and defines the Tribulation time period?

Dave Bowen: Well, I think the last week, the seventh week, is the Tribulation period, the last seven years, so. But let’s back up a little bit because you hit a hammer. You hit the nail on the head with that literal interpretation of it. Okay? The woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars on her head to give birth. Is that literal or is that metaphorical? It’s literal! How do you say that’s literal? What woman is being clothed with that? You have to understand it, what? In context, as you said.

Nathan Jones: Yeah.

Dave Bowen: So you go back to Jacob’s dream, Genesis 37. Jacob heard this. Joseph’s dream! Jacob heard this. He understood that he was the sun, that Rachel was the moon, and the brothers were the 12 stars. Well, this becomes who? Becomes Israel. Jacob becomes Israel. Israel’s giving birth to the Messiah. Well, Israel gives birth to the Messiah.

And then what happens? You get to verse three, there’s a red dragon there with 7 heads and 10 horns and 7 crowns, which becomes the End Time kingdoms.

But you have Satan. The devil wants to consume the baby when it comes out from the woman. This goes back the Book of Matthew, the Gospel of Matthew. Why did Herod kill the babies? Well, that’s Jesus being born. That’s the Messiah being born. And Herod comes down there being led by Satan.

Tim Moore: And to this very day, Satan tried to destroy the Jewish people because they were the people that bore the Messiah and because there are promises held out to them even today.

Dave Bowen: Yeah!

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Part 2

Tim Moore: You know, before we took a brief time out, Dave, you were talking about the literal meaning behind even metaphors. Metaphors don’t stand on their own. They’re not made up of some ephemeral nonsense. They are representative of real people, real things, real activities. So even this woman clothed and having stars around her represents Israel. And I think that’s an important point. The metaphor, the symbol, stands for something.

So when we say we interpret literally, we believe that God had a literal true meaning, and that we can’t just go designing our own interpretation or meaning. We have to seek His true meaning. And that is the literal interpretation.

Dave Bowen: Right. Exactly! You have to understand it in context. And you can’t go off board and you have to– In context, it makes all sense. Revelation 7:2 and 3, there’s a seal on the forehead. Not a mark of the beast, but a seal on the forehead. What is that? Is that literal? What is that?
Well, you go back to Ezekiel 9. In Ezekiel 9, God says, “Give to those who grieve and mourn over the things that are detestable.” Ezekiel 9:3-4: “Pass through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of men who sit and groan over all the abominations that are committed on it.”

What does God want us to do in context? He wants us to grieve over things that are unrighteous. He wants us to grieve over the way our world’s going.

Tim Moore: And really, if we become like Christ, if we become Christ-like, then the things that grieve His heart should grieve my heart.

Dave Bowen: Exactly.

Tim Moore: I should not be attracted to the things that would grieve Christ. The things that bring Him joy should bring me joy. What brought Christ joy, what brought the Father joy, was Christ fulfilling the will of the Father. That’s what I should seek to do if I am Christ-like. So really it’s modeling exactly what Jesus demonstrated in His sinless life here on Earth.

Tim Moore: Exactly!

Nathan Jones: Good point! And the fifth way to make Revelation, I think you brought up, is prophetic perspective. So we read about the great sign of Revelation. We know that Herod killing the babies was the dragon trying to kill the child. But we also know in the Book of Revelation that, again, the Antichrist is going to come against the Jewish people.

Dave Bowen: Right!

Nathan Jones: They’re going to flee into the wilderness and the Lord’s going to supernaturally protect a remnant of them for a period of time. So prophetic perspective is kind of like when I go to your favorite place, Colorado Springs, and, you know, you’re traveling through the plains and then all of a sudden the mountains are there and you look across the mountains and it looks like one solid mass of mountains. But once you go up in the mountains, you realize there’s valleys.

Tim Moore: Yes!

Nathan Jones: Likewise, with prophetic perspective, we’re looking, the prophet’s looking down at the events of time, but there’s time valleys between. So we’ve got a prophecy that fits for a particular time period, the first century when Jesus was persecuted as a baby. But then this will happen to the Jewish people later. Do you see a lot of prophetic perspective in the Book of Revelation? And do we understand it to help us understand the Book of Revelation?

Dave Bowen: I think the whole book is filled with that, as far as being prophetic, you know, perspective with that. The problem is that we don’t take time to study it to understand it. One scene that people get really bothered by is, we find it in Revelation 9, it’s the locusts. Now these demonic 200 million. What is that?

Now I’m from Arizona. I’m from Phoenix, you know? So we know what Scorpion stings are like. If you don’t live in Phoenix, you may not know what a scorpion is. But when you look at Revelation 9:3-6, the locust-like scorpion, they’re there for five months, and death is not allowed. God takes death off.

So you’d imagine being stung repeatedly by scorpions to the point you just want to die but death’s not there. What does that mean? Now, without going to either Exodus 10, 1 Kings 8, Deuteronomy 28, or Psalm 78, you won’t get that. But to me the key was Genesis 7:24, and the flood. How long did it rain? Well, everybody knows it was 40 days and 40 nights. But how long was the earth covered with water? 150 days! Five months. The Jewish mind would go to that immediately.

How many Gentile minds look at this? And for five months the scorpion sting was there. It was so bad, men wanted to die. But God was controlling death and life at that point. And you go back to the flood. Then you got to ask in context, “What was the purpose of the flood?” To turn hearts to God. So when this comes, what’s the purpose? Why would God do this? To turn hearts to Him.

Tim Moore: And we know sadly, some will yield to Him, they will repent and turn to Christ in saving grace. And others will shake their fist at God, curse God, and wish they could die. And what they don’t realize, perhaps, is death is coming.

Dave Bowen: Yeah.

Tim Moore: It’s the everlasting death.

Dave Bowen: Correct!

Tim Moore: You know, you say, “The Jewish mind.” Sadly, some Jewish minds today would not get that because they’re no more students of their own history than some Christians are of the entire Bible.

Dave Bowen: Right!

Tim Moore: I’m not painting with too broad a brush, but let’s face it, some, again, just want the Cliff Notes version and they don’t get the richness of what God has revealed. But He doesn’t give it in a Cliff Notes version, some of the great mysteries. The only thing that is a Cliff Notes version really is the Gospel.

And I can’t unpack all the wonder and mystery, but I understand that by putting my trust in Christ who died in my place, who was buried, resurrected by His own power and ascended to Heaven, I can be saved. That’s the Cliff Notes version of the most important truth. But the rest of the Bible unveils all that God has in store for all of humanity. And it’s beautiful, it’s a tapestry, but I have to study and read.

Dave Bowen: Yeah! And many, many Gentiles don’t. Chapters two and three talk about the Church, the day that time is now with that. Well, the warning is to lose your first love, you’ve lost your first love. Well, how do I do that? I love Jesus. How do I love? What does that mean? You don’t get that answer unless you have Jeremiah 2 and Hosea 14, where they’re worshiping idols.

So we have to stop worshiping. How do you lose your first love? By worshiping idols. Well, what’s an idol? It could be ourselves and our comfort. It could be our work. It could be things like our family. Whatever we put before God becomes an idol, like it or not. So that’s how we begin to lose our first love.

Nathan Jones: Interesting.

Dave Bowen: So all this again without Jeremiah and Hosea, you don’t get that picture.

Nathan Jones: Well, the sixth way to understand, at least for me, to make Revelation easy is chronology. So some people say, “Well, the seal judgments are just echoed in the trumpet judgements. And the bowl judgments are just echoes of it.” Do you see the Book of Revelation being chronological in order? Because really, Revelation can get very hard if you don’t see it in a chronological order.

Dave Bowen: Yeah! There is a pause between the sixth seal and the seventh seal. There is a pause between the sixth trumpet and the seventh trumpet. There is not a pause between the bowls. So, there is. When you read this, there is chronological, but there are pauses in there. So a couple chapters will be the pauses explaining what’s happening there.

Tim Moore: Do you think God ever uses any fast forwards or flash forwards in the book? Or sometimes flash backwards? Or is it all chronological? We have different opinions on this. Obviously, we had Robert Morgan who thinks the whole thing is purely chronological. Dr. Reagan would say, “Well, there’s some flash forwards, flash backwards.” What did you find in your study?

Dave Bowen: It’s a combination! Because again, John is… What’s going back from Heaven to Earth and Heaven to Earth? So those perspectives do change as he’s talking about this. So some would be a fast forward, but most of it is chronological.

Tim Moore: Yes!

Dave Bowen: And the majority of it is when he goes back to it, he explains what’s happening in the history with that. That puts it in context. That’s the Old Testament. You have to go back to understand that in context. But yes, when you look at the seals, just understand the population, the world population right now, is eight billion people. So we all want Jesus to come back now. We’re ready for the Rapture now.

Tim Moore: Yeah, sure.

Dave Bowen: If it were to happen, the population, the world population of eight billion people, the seals, you have 1/4 of this, of the world population, not surviving. That’s two billion people. Can you imagine anything that would cause two billion people to die? Now, we’re in a seven year period. By the time we get to the trumpets, less than seven years, you have another third that do not survive.

So a third of six billion is another two billion, which means half the world population will not survive this period. And yet the Church, we don’t talk about it. We don’t talk about the Tribulation; we don’t talk about Revelation because people get scared of it. If that kind of pain and death and suffering is coming, we need to make sure people understand.

Tim Moore: We need to make sure people understand. You know, too many in our realm, let’s just be frank, of talking about Bible prophecy, like to get into wild and fanciful interpretations. They like to go down not just rabbit trails, we do that in the Word of God, but they like to create all sorts of fanciful, speculative or spectacular interpretations that really move away from the Word of God.

Obviously, we present a literal interpretation where we take literally that there will be a Millennial Reign of Christ, that He is coming for the Church in an event we call the Rapture imminently.

Dave Bowen: Right!

Tim Moore: It means nothing else has to proceed that and that He is going to return in the glorious Second Coming to Earth to set up His reign. But throughout Revelation, especially in the promises to the churches in chapters two and three, there are promises made to those who overcome.

Dave Bowen: Yeah!

Tim Moore: Who is that referring to? And how can we ensure, how can a viewer ensure that they are among those who overcome?

Dave Bowen: Well, you have seven promises in the Book of Revelation. It opens and closes one, but you also have it in chapter 14, 16, 19, 20, and 22. So an overcomer is those who stand against persecution. When persecution comes, when trial comes, when things come against them.

Tim Moore: But you can stand against persecution and be totally secular.

Dave Bowen: Without losing your faith!

Tim Moore: In the definition of 1 John 5:5, an overcomer is?

Dave Bowen: Without losing your faith.

Tim Moore: One who’s put their trust in Jesus Christ and perseveres to the end.

Dave Bowen: Yes. So… and they’re going to need that information in the Tribulation period.

Tim Moore: Those who are Tribulation Saints.

Dave Bowen: Right!

Nathan Jones: And those overcomers then populate the Millennial Kingdom.

Dave Bowen: Yes.

Nathan Jones: So the seventh way of understanding the Book of Revelation is do we take the Millennial Kingdom be a literal thousand years? Or is it just a time period like the church age?

Dave Bowen: Do you take Isaiah 17 to be literal? Where we’re told how the animal- Even the animal kingdom will respond to this! So again, you’re going back to the Old Testament when it says, “This is what this period will be like.” Then I don’t need to make Revelation symbolic. I can go back to the Old Testament and Scripture will interpret Scripture, and we know even the animal kingdom will be peaceful.

Nathan Jones: Oh yeah! Six times it says, “A thousand years. A thousand years. A thousand years.” And that, I think, helps us understand the Book of Revelation because it’s a literal understanding of the time periods it gives us.

Dave Bowen: Yeah!

Closing

Tim Moore: Well, obviously fellas, there’s much that we could continue to converse about. So maybe it’s not completely easy, but your book helps a reader understand Revelation in a way that is easier perhaps than they’ve seen before. I think the key is that you read. And as Revelation says, “You heed.” Which means that you believe.

Well Dave, for many months now, you’ve been blessing our readers and our viewers through your Deep Dive articles, through your regular podcast here at ChristinProphecy.org. And for sometimes regular appearances on Christ in Prophecy. So thank you for joining us today for this episode.

Dave Bowen: It’s a pleasure. Always a pleasure.

Tim Moore: Been a great joy!

Nathan Jones: Yeah, I really admire people who take the Book of Revelation, make it easy. It’s one of my favorite! But it’s, you know, Tim and I love this book. Thank you for doing that and thank you for pointing to the Old Testament and how important it is to study it.

Tim Moore: Amen!

Dave Bowen: Absolutely.

Tim Moore: Well, Dave, obviously, and Nathan, it’s been great to be with you all together. I feel like every time we’re here, we’re like iron sharpening iron because we have sharpened one another as we’ve honed ourselves against the sharp two-edged sword that is the Word of God. And I actually look forward to this kind of dialogue every time we have it. And actually, I’m eager to do it again.

Dave Bowen: Well, praise God! Anytime you guys want to talk about it, I’m up for that.

Nathan Jones: And what the Book of Revelation shows us, we’re going to sit at the feet of Jesus Christ and He’s going to teach us His own Word. Brother, I’m looking forward to when we can sit in front of the Ultimate Teacher.

Dave Bowen: I can only imagine.

Tim Moore: Well, there you have it, folks. The Book of Revelation Made Easy, or at least made easier. And we trust that the words of our mouths and the meditations of our hearts will be acceptable in the sight of Jesus Christ, our Lord, our Rock and our Redeemer, and that they have been a blessing to you.

Until next week, Dave and Nathan and I, and all of us here at Lamb & Lion Ministries, wish you Godspeed!

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