Jan Markell on the World Falling Apart

How has the Church been falling into apostasy? Find out with guest Jan Markell on the show Christ in Prophecy.

Air Date: November 12, 2017

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Dr. Reagan: Increasingly, as the world seems to be spinning out of control, Christians are asking, “What on earth is God doing?” Is He really in control? And if so, where are we headed? Our special guest today is Jan Markell of Olive Tree Ministries, and she has the answer to these questions. So, stay tuned.

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Part 1

Dr. Reagan: Greetings in the name of Jesus, our Blessed Hope, and welcome to Christ in Prophecy. My colleague, Nathan Jones, and I have a great friend on the set with us today. She is Jan Markell, and she is the founder and director of Olive Tree Ministries, located in Minneapolis, Minnesota area. Welcome to our program, Jan.

Jan Markell: David, thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure.

Dr. Reagan: OK.

Nathan Jones: So good to have you on Jan.

Jan Markell: Thank you, Nathan.

Nathan Jones: Now if I understand it you are a Jewish Christian right?

Jan Markell: Well, yeah, my world was kind of a combination; I had some Jewish influence and I had a little bit of Christian influence. But, I heard a Jewish evangelist.

Dr. Reagan: A very famous one.

Jan Markell: When I was just 11 years old, neighbors dragged me to hear Dr. Hyman Appelman. I didn’t know what he was talking about. But you know he preached the Gospel so convincingly and my heart was so convicted that I needed to respond to what he was talking about. And as an 11 year old I gave my heart to the Lord. I did not know that would ultimately mean I would be in full-time Christian ministry and all the problems that come with it.

Nathan Jones: When did you start full-time Christian ministry?

Jan Markell: That was in the late 1970’s.

Nathan Jones: Seventies, so you were a Christian and you just went right into ministry after that?

Jan Markell: Well I, frankly I took a trip to Israel in there in my as a young adult and that turned my life upside down in a good way.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Jan Markell: It grounded me. The world suddenly made much more sense to me after my trip to Israel. So I am so grateful I went.

Dr. Reagan: We always say to people that are considering going with us to Israel that when you go to Israel it turns the Bible from black and white into Technicolor.

Jan Markell: Exactly, exactly right. And world too, because I better understood the whole conflict, particularly in the Middle East.

Dr. Reagan: Well you worked with Jews for Jesus for a couple of years.

Jan Markell: I did.

Dr. Reagan: And then you started your own ministry. And basically you just got in a car and started driving all over the United States.

Jan Markell: Exactly.

Dr. Reagan: And you had your slides with you I guess.

Jan Markell: And my AV equipment, my 12 string guitar. And David when I started I couldn’t keep up with the demand it was so tremendous.

Dr. Reagan: And quite different from today.

Jan Markell: Quite different.

Dr. Reagan: You wrote an article about that recently about how if you were starting out today you wouldn’t find a place to speak.

Jan Markell: I don’t–it would be a serious problem. If I had to support myself doing that I would be in the poor house for sure.

Dr. Reagan: So there has been a big shift on the churches with regard to their interest in end time prophecy.

Jan Markell: Huge. Back then I could minister every day of the week and ten times on Sunday.

Dr. Reagan: And that is so strange when all the signs of the times indicate that we are living right on the threshold of the Lord’s return.

Jan Markell: Exactly.

Dr. Reagan: Well Jan I want to ask you about something else. I read a book of yours recently, you’ve written several but this book just grabbed me, I couldn’t put it down. First of all you are a brilliant writer. And the book was called, Trapped in Hitler’s Hell. And I want you–I want our viewers to know about that book, so I’d like for you to look right into that camera and give them a capsule summary of it and tell them how they can get a copy.

Jan Markell: Well, Trapped in Hitler’s Hell is a true story of Anita Dittman, Holocaust survivor, she turned 90 very recently. And a story of miracle, after miracle, after miracle of how God saved her life, saved her mother’s life in the camps. Her escape from the camps. The reunion of her and her mother. It’s a story of miraculous provision. And it’s been out 40 years. And you as an author know most books don’t have a 40 year life span.

Dr. Reagan: That’s right. That’s right.

Jan Markell: Forty years World Net Daily hopes to make it a major theater film in 2018. Olivetreeviews.org just go to my store, or you can call my office and we’ll get it out to you as soon as possible.

Dr. Reagan: And when they go to your website can they sign up to be on a newsletter? Do you have a newsletter?

Jan Markell: Absolutely. Print newsletter, e-newsletter. We have five years of radio programming hosted there.

Dr. Reagan: Let’s talk about radio programming. What’s the name of your radio program and what’s the nature of it?

Jan Markell: Well, “Understanding the Times” tries to help folks understand our rather goofy, complex times. Because well we are in the very end times and things go haywire when you’re in the end times. So, we try to make sense of it for people. We look at all things, we even look at politics, but we try to do everything from a biblical perspective. And we hit eschatology as often as I can; the fact that the King is coming. And David the most frequent e-mail I get, and Nathan I have a feeling you get it as well. Number one is: Where can I find a good church? And number two is: Why won’t my church talk about the fact that the King is coming?

Dr. Reagan: And it is hard to find a good church these days.

Jan Markell: It is hard to find a good church.

Dr. Reagan: Folks, Jan has a major radio program. It is broadcast every week on Saturday and Sunday. You can find it on the Bott Network, or Salem Network, and other networks as well. She is on over 800 stations in the United States, she has a tremendous following. And she doesn’t–she hasn’t seen this yet, but I have just finished a new book, the book is called, “God’s Prophetic Voices to America.” And there is a whole chapter about her in that book, along with 13 voices, past and present that I identify as God’s prophetic voices to America today. That book is available and by the time you see this program it is going to be available. So you can order it from us. It is called, “God’s Prophetic Voices for America.” And I’m just hoping and praying that Jan is going to like what I said about her.

Jan Markell: Thank you David, that is so kind of you.

Nathan Jones: Surprise.

Jan Markell: I’m blown away.

Dr. Reagan: As I say she hasn’t seen it. Yeah. And it has a beautiful picture of you in there also.

Jan Markell: Well, we struggled with that but we came up with one.

Dr. Reagan: We did. Well, Jan, you also have a person who helps you with the radio program that many of our viewers are familiar with because we’ve had him on this program several times. Tell the people about him.

Jan Markell: Well, Eric Barger, is my very often co-host. Eric and I became acquainted in 2009 and so he sits in with me as often as he can.

Dr. Reagan: And one of the reasons I think you have him is well he is very articulate, and he is very knowledgeable but your ministry not only touches on Bible prophecy but it is also apologetics ministry I mean you are defending the faith all the time.

Jan Markell: We try to. We try because there is a lot to defend, and there is a lot that is haywire.

Dr. Reagan: And one of the things that I point out in this book is that you are a person who is really concerned about the apostasy that is sweeping through the church today, and you speak out about that very, very strongly.

Nathan Jones: Like I love what you say, you call yourself in your newsletter, “A watchman on the wall.” You consider yourself a watchwoman on the wall.

Jan Markell: Well and I hope every Christian would be a watchperson on the wall, because I mean that is kind of our calling. Sons of Issachar we are men who understood the times. And God wants us to understand.

Dr. Reagan: Well as I did research on you I found that there is a phrase that you repeat over, and over in your writings, and that phrase is this, “The world is not falling to pieces, rather the pieces are all falling into place.” And we are going to come back in just a moment and talk about that.

Part 2

Nathan Jones: Welcome back to Christ in Prophecy and our interview with Jan Markell, the founder and director of Olive Tree Ministries.

Dr. Reagan: Jan, before the break I mentioned that one of the expressions that appears over, and over in your writings goes something like this: “The world is not falling to pieces, rather the pieces are all falling into place.” What in the world do you mean by that?

Jan Markell: Well, the Bible, David, outlines so many things that would be happening as sort of the end of the Church Age would close. And we’re just seeing some of those, they are stage setting signs. A lot are going to come true, are going to be fulfilled in the Tribulation, but we have things being fulfilled as we speak. We have things going on with the church, 2 Timothy 3, where men will be lovers of self, and money, and proud, arrogant, and we see that. Where was that better demonstrated then in our election campaign back in 2016? “No I’m the best.” “No I’m the best.” “I’m the most qualified.”

Dr. Reagan: “I will make America great again.”

Jan Markell: And it just went on and on, one candidate after another was boasting, and boasting. Well anyway the point is I think that we’re seeing so many of the predicted signs starting to really manifest and they are going to intensify. And the Bible says when you see these thing begin to happen look up, and know your Redeemer is drawing near.

Nathan Jones: What kind of signs would you say then–beside you just mentioned apostasy in the Church, and people being lovers of themselves. I read an article just this week that said that people will take enough selfies to equal every day of their life. They’ll go to art museums and instead of taking pictures of art, they will take a picture of themselves in front of the art. We are clearly lovers of ourselves, and that is a sign of the end times. Is there just a quick, are there others as well?

Dr. Reagan: Well, Israel of course.

Nathan Jones: Israel, yeah.

Jan Markell: Well, Israel is the super sign.

Nathan Jones: And that is where your passion is.

Jan Markell: Yeah, sure, but I mean we’ve got goodness we have the rise of evil, and I talk about that on radio sometimes. We’ve got–did you ever think that we would see after school Satan clubs? And that is what we have now. And they are competing with the Child Evangelism classes that are offered. We have the increase of travel.

Dr. Reagan: Or people saying that you are a backward person if you don’t believe that a man should be able to go into a woman’s bathroom.

Jan Markell: Exactly. But we have this kind of return, David, of the days of Noah.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, yeah.

Jan Markell: Noah’s day, I’m sure–

Nathan Jones: That sounds familiar, right? Isn’t it supposed to be that way?

Dr. Reagan: And Jesus said that would happen.

Jan Markell: And that I the thought those ways back then.

Dr. Reagan: Several years ago I wrote a book about the signs of the times called, Living on Borrowed Time and I had 22 different Bible prophecy people respond, and you were one of them.

Jan Markell: Yeah.

Dr. Reagan: And I asked: What you considered to be the most important sign? And of course almost everybody said Israel. But they said but there really is one more important than that.

Jan Markell: Convergence.

Dr. Reagan: Convergence. Now what does that mean?

Jan Markell: Well, I think that’s when you see all these things begin to happen, look up. They’re all coming together.

Dr. Reagan: They’re all coming together.

Jan Markell: All the signs are.

Dr. Reagan: They are all coming together. There are just so many of them coming together. That I think I would agree with that I think convergence is the key. Well, you have recently, most recent articles you have really been talking a lot about the shift in the evangelical world from preaching the Bible to social activism. Tell us about that.

Nathan Jones: I think younger pastors, and just plain younger people let’s say perhaps under 40, they’re passion is social justice. And it is one reason Israel is falling kind of into disfavor. And we can probably get into this is a later discussion as well, but the social justice is–for instance it is convincing a younger generation that we have to be pro-Palestinian, get away from Israel look at the Palestinian cause. But it is the overall social justice.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, nuclear weapons, torture, poverty.

Jan Markell: Poverty, yes.

Dr. Reagan: On, and on and on.

Jan Markell: To the fact that we are evangelicalism is beginning to look it’s the Social Gospel.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Jan Markell: Which 30 years ago I can remember the evangelical movement was so–I even done a history on the evangelicals came together in 1942 in St. Louis to be a counter to the World Council, and National Council Churches, way back then early 40’s they came together because they wanted to counter. Now they are behaving just like them.

Nathan Jones: Yeah they’ve left faith to works, there needs to be a good balance. Maybe there was too much academics at the time and not enough works, now we’ve got too much works and not–it seems like the pendulum through history swings back and forth but never ends up in the middle.

Dr. Reagan: The problem is a movement away from the Bible.

Nathan Jones: Yes, exactly.

Dr. Reagan: The latest poll by LifeWay just came out says that the number of evangelicals in this nation has now dropped from 9% to 6% and these are defined as people who believe nine doctrines. And they are doctrines like: there is only one God, God was the Creator, Jesus was God in the flesh, Jesus died on the cross for the atonement of our sins, Satan is a real person. That is what they judge it by. Then their second category are people who are non-evangelical but claim to be born again, and in that group which is the majority of Christians right now, I call them cultural Christians when they ask them they question they say, “Yes, Jesus sinned. No there is no such thing as Satan.” And they call themselves Bible–you know Christians, but they deny the fundamentals of the faith. Well, again I think this is a part of the great falling away that is predicted in 2 Timothy and many other places that people are going to pretty soon give heed to the doctrine of demons and they are just going to–

Nathan Jones: Christian yoga.

Jan Markell: Christian yoga. Can you sanctify yoga? You cannot sanctify the fact you are calling down millions of Hindu gods. But there are many Christians who think you can sanctify it.

Dr. Reagan: Albert Mohler wrote an article about yoga and why it was unchristian. And he said he had never received so much hate mail in all his life from Christians.

Jan Markell: I believe it. I believe it. But that is part of this end time deception. It is the end time falling away of truth.

Dr. Reagan: Well I find the church today just desiring acceptance by the world.

Jan Markell: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: And the result of that is you have quote “evangelicals” saying, “Well, you know we’ve got to be tolerant of homosexuality. We’ve got to be tolerant of same-sex marriage. And I don’t see anything wrong with this or that, or whatever, but we’ve got to be accepted by the world.”

Jan Markell: Well, but the left isn’t tolerant of us is it?

Nathan Jones: One of the leading apologists, whoa, back that up, one of the leading millennial preachers today his name is Jefferson Bethke is out there actually saying that we should stop really getting into our Bibles, we shouldn’t worry about apologetics we can just pull it up on our cellphone and read it, and instead like you said we should tell our story and be more social justice activists. Why are Christians and churches abandoning reading the Bible? The Bible? The foundation of our faith.

Jan Markell: Well I think again, I think we’re going through the time of the great falling away which was predicted.

Nathan Jones: The church of Laodicea.

Jan Markell: The church of Laodicea is prospering. I wish–that’s why we need to keep doing what we’re doing and give out the truth. But those truth tellers are getting fewer, and fewer. Also come under tremendous Satanic attack. And I just encourage your audience David, and Nathan, to pray for ministries that are telling the truth.

Dr. Reagan: Well, I find that to me the greatest apostasy that’s occurring in the church today, even among evangelicals is the teaching that there are many roads to God. Everywhere I turn the people are saying there are many roads to God.

Nathan Jones: Well The Shack didn’t help. The Shack didn’t help.

Dr. Reagan: That’s right.

Jan Markell: And I think all of us have seen that.

Dr. Reagan: The author is a Universalist.

Jan Markell: I think we’ve taken some hits for kind of denouncing that because it was such a feel good message. And so many Christians who are hurting felt that they could identify with the lead character in The Shack but that is indicative of the church today. Thankfully not all because the remnant remains true.

Dr. Reagan: Well, again the number one value in our society today is tolerance, so if you get up and you say there is only one road to God, and that is through Jesus Christ and there is only one God and He is not Mohammed you are intolerant.

Jan Markell: Well, I’ll tell you, I want to recommend a book and that is Robert Jeffress book, Not all Roads Lead to Heaven it is outstanding.

Dr. Reagan: Yes, yes. I just got through reading it.

Nathan Jones: Well, Jan, your ministry is to be the watchman on the wall, to tell people about the signs of the times. Do you see a response to it? I mean are you a lone voice crying out and no one’s listening to you, or do you see a response?

Jan Markell: Nathan, and I don’t want to call attention necessarily to myself and the ministry, but to answer your question at my fall conference a year ago, or last fall in a venue of 4,300 we had 6,000 people. We did not know what to do. It was kind of a crisis. The freeways were backed up with cars trying to get to it because people want to hear what we have to say. They really do. The remnant wants it. It’s not in their pulpit. It is not in their pulpit. And hundreds of people came to me and said, “Where can we find this kind of truth about eschatology and the Lord’s return?” It’s the best news there is as we have hope. It is the Blessed Hope. My church won’t talk about it. My family won’t talk about it. My good friends won’t talk about it. And if I talk about it they think I’m crazy.

Nathan Jones: So you have this big conference every year, our ministry of course hosts a large conference every July. And that is one of your major outreaches for your ministry.

Jan Markell: Yes, and they come from across the country, and they’re starving. It’s the starving remnant. And they are looking to the watchmen on the wall, and they are trusting us. And that’s kind of a heavy burden but it’s an honor.

Dr. Reagan: I think most young pastors today have fallen into the trap of thinking that the only way you can build a church is to be seeker sensitive.

Jan Markell: Yeah, absolutely.

Dr. Reagan: Not to hurt anybody’s feelings. To tip toe through the tulips. And I think what people really want to hear is the Word of God.

Jan Markell: Yeah they do.

Dr. Reagan: And what it says.

Jan Markell: The unadulterated and the literal Word of God–

Dr. Reagan: And the Word is powerful, they need to hear that they are sinners, they need to hear that they need to repent, and nobody wants to talk about that.

Jan Markell: No, no the seeker sensitive came along some 20-25 years ago. And one of the founders of it apologized.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Jan Markell: He apologized.

Nathan Jones: But he didn’t change it?

Jan Markell: He didn’t change it, but he said, “I was wrong, it doesn’t work.” Yeah.

Nathan Jones: It’s turned our churches into outreach events. To me a church service should be a rejuvenation of the congregation. A rebuilding to equip them to go out and preach. Instead we’ve turned our sanctuaries into outreach events, and we always preach at the 101 level and no one ever grows. I can see how that would really backfire.

Jan Markell: Well, I think it has. And I think the Church–you know I mean there are remnant believers, and remnant pastors holding the truth, thank you, continue to do so please. But they are in the minority.

Dr. Reagan: Now you went to Bethel University in Minneapolis because I think there is more than one school.

Jan Markell: No it is in St. Paul.

Dr. Reagan: St. Paul, ok. And recently, or sometime recently you went there for a conference. Tell us about that conference.

Jan Markell: Well–

Dr. Reagan: Because it had you ranting and raving.

Jan Markell: It would have most of your viewers ranting and raving. It was called, “Hope for the Holy Land.” It was put on by a number of organizations, World Vision was a part of it. The school Bethel University was a part of it. There were a number of speakers and it was mainly to denounce Israel, and to lift up the Palestinian cause. And clearly the Palestinian people, I mean the Palestinian people are such victims of their leadership.

Dr. Reagan: Of their own leaders, yes.

Jan Markell: Oh, yeah, their leaders are so abusing them, and, but to hear Israel put down for a couple of hours. And then they Q & A time and some of us tried to ask questions we were shut down, we couldn’t ask questions. And then David, the president of the school got up and he said–this was so shocking, he said, “I’m so sorry that I didn’t grow up in a church that honored the Palestinian people.” He said, “Instead my church had maps of Israel all around, and I just wish I would have known the Palestinian story as I was growing up.” This is Bethel University in St. Paul, Minnesota.

Dr. Reagan: Well, but you also told in the reading that I did, the research I did you told about another meeting there where they talked about they had Buddhists.

Jan Markell: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: Tell us about that one.

Jan Markell: Yes, they had, this was promoting contemplative prayer. That is a big problem in the Church is the mystical element that has come in. And they had a Buddhist there promoting Buddhism and his form of prayer. And they had numbers of people, these poor students.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, they don’t know what to believe anymore.

Jan Markell: What are these 18-20 year olds supposed make of a situation like this? They had no idea. So what are they going to do? They are going to go out and practice the kind of praying that this Buddhist recommended, which is dangerous because you can allow demons to come into you.

Dr. Reagan: Right you open yourself up to demonic invasion.

Jan Markell: Yeah, so it was shocking. This is my alma mater and obviously not everyone in the school or the parents, or the students went along with it.

Dr. Reagan: I think a lot of people are getting shocked these days over their alma maters. One of our board members is a graduate of Wheaton College and has always been very, very proud of Wheaton College. And one of the leaders of the so called Christian Palestinian movement today is a professor there who is talking all the time about the poor Palestinians and we’ve got to do something about Israel and all this sort of thing.

Jan Markell: Yeah, I know who you are talking about and they’ve kept him on staff for 20 years. So, apparently it doesn’t bother the leadership.

Dr. Reagan: But and that’s sad because the number one leader in the world today against Israel and for the Palestinians is a Church of England priest by the name of–

Jan Markell: Stephen Sizer.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, Stephen Sizer. And his bishop finally called him in and said, “You either shut up about this nonsense or you lose your parish.” And he said, “I’ll take my parish.” But he had just posted on his Facebook account an article about how the attacks on 9/11 were carried out by Mossad, the Israeli’s.

Jan Markell: Yeah, he is a true anti-Semite. And he’s a crony of the Ayatollahs in Iran.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah.

Jan Markell: So, and he’s also one of the main speakers at Christ at the Checkpoint which is another type of every other year in Bethlehem that is coming against Israel, some evangelicals as speakers.

Dr. Reagan: Yes. Well you know Jan, because you’re on the frontlines and you are, you are right on the frontlines and you are speaking out about these vital issues. You are constantly under attack. I was telling you as we were driving here yesterday I got on the internet and I just typed your name in and there was attack, after attack, after attack, after attack. I think you’ve got the Devil stirred up.

Jan Markell: Apparently.

Nathan Jones: You are doing something right.

Jan Markell: I just tell the truth.

Dr. Reagan: And one of your worse attackers has been Hank Hanegraaff who just attack, and attack, and attack. And you know Hank became a Preterist several years ago where he said all end time Bible prophecy was fulfilled in 70 AD with the destruction of Jerusalem. And then recently he made the stunning announcement that he was joining the Greek Orthodox Church. And he was immediately kicked off Salem Radio Network, right?

Jan Markell: Bott Network.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, the Bott Network, yes. And it’s just, I don’t know. In fact there was a few years ago when he publically announced that he believed anybody who believed in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture was a member of a cult.

Jan Markell: Well, he’s also very, very anti-Israel.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, yes.

Jan Markell: David, and I just think his judgment is skewed, and I think we do need to pray for him. He has some health crisis right now as well.

Dr. Reagan: Yes.

Jan Markell: But then in January on his national program he said I’m a blight on the earth.

Nathan Jones: A blight on the earth?

Jan Markell: Yeah, he said that to his national audience, and said, “Don’t listen to her. She is reprehensible.” So.

Nathan Jones: And then that gives you more stations, and more people to go to your conferences. He’s doing you a favor.

Jan Markell: Well.

Dr. Reagan: But, Jan, you just look like the last person in the world who would be a threat.

Jan Markell: I’m a humble woman from the Midwest, from the Twin Cities.

Nathan Jones: The frozen north.

Jan Markell: The frozen north. Socialist capital of America. I mind my own business–

Dr. Reagan: It’s not only the Socialist capital of America it seems like it’s becoming more, and more an Islamic capital of America.

Jan Markell: It is an Islamic capital, it is jihad central, it is.

Nathan Jones: Do have a lot of concerns when you hold your conferences of Muslim attacks?

Jan Markell: We spend between $5,000-$10,000 in security for the conference. So everybody is safe.

Dr. Reagan: And isn’t that a sad thing to think we have to do that in America today.

Jan Markell: When we started David we didn’t even give that a thought.

Dr. Reagan: Say, several years ago I went out to speak at a conference at Chino Hills, Jack Hibbs Calvary Chapel out there, a wonderful man of God. And they had two former Palestinian terrorists who have become Christians. They had so many bomb threats they circled the entire inside with police, the entire outside with police. And every time a speaker, every time a speaker got up Jack got up and read a statement, “I want you to know that in the State of California it is a felony to disrupt a church service. If you disrupt this church service we will prosecute you.” And I thought what has America come to?

Jan Markell: What has it come to? Yeah. Well some of this is the Islamic influence, it is heavily, almost exclusively for that matter the Islamic influence. I didn’t think I’d live to see it in my day. But Twin Cities is definitely Islamic.

Dr. Reagan: Well, I’m getting ready to write an article about that because I’ve given a lot of thought why is it that the left in America loves Islam so much?

Nathan Jones: They work for the same boss.

Dr. Reagan: Here is Islam saying that we should kill homosexuals. Women shouldn’t have any rights at all, not even to drive a car motor or anything. They stand for everything the left believes in, yet the left loves them and promotes them. And you know what? I am convinced that there is one fundamental reason and that is they both hate Christianity.

Jan Markell: Yeah.

Nathan Jones: They want to purge America of Christianity.

Jan Markell: Yeah, I think that is exactly right.

Dr. Reagan: That’s what brings them together.

Jan Markell: Yeah that’s what brings them together.

Nathan Jones: In their humanistic thought they think once Christianity is out of the way they would be able to purge Islam.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah if your enemy is my enemy then we’re political colleagues.

Jan Markell: Yeah, then we’re going to be friends, yeah.

Nathan Jones: Do you have any hope for us? I mean the world is falling apart we are in the church of Laodicea. But what are some of the success stories you are seeing in your ministry?

Jan Markell: Oh, my goodness. I mean, I think I’m encouraged that the remnant is on fire. The remnant wants to understand truth. The remnant wants to understand the issues we care about so much. The remnant is on fire to win folks to the Lord. The remnant understands the time is short.

Dr. Reagan: Hallelujah.

Part 3

Nathan Jones: Welcome back to Christ in Prophecy and our interview with Jan Markell. Jan, great blessing, so glad you came.

Jan Markell: My privilege. Thank you.

Dr. Reagan: And Jan, listen we just love you and we thank you for being on the program. You can come back and be on this program anytime. In fact I am going to have you back next week to talk about Israel.

Jan Markell: Oh, alright love it. Love it.

Dr. Reagan: Alright, folks, that is our program for this week. I hope it’s been a blessing to you. And the Lord willing I hope you’ll be back with us next week. Until then this is Dave Reagan speaking for Lamb & Lion Ministries saying, “Look up, be watchful for our redemption is drawing near.”

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