Trump, AI, and the Prophetic Timeline

Part 2: Prophetic Timeline

Todd Hampson: It’s funny, if you’ve been around long enough, you see that prophecy developments do ebb and flow, but always the hand of God is there guiding it. You know, it’s His timetable. You know, we can only predict what the Bible clearly says. Anything else is stage setting. So we’ve got to look at it through that lens. I think what you guys highlight very frequently are some key things to keep an eye on.

How does it relate to Israel? How does it relate to globalism? How does it relate to things like that that we know are in Scripture, and then evaluate it based on that.

Jeff Kinley: Yeah, that’s a great question. I think, first of all, we need to celebrate good things when they come our way. This has been a good election for Christianity, for a president being pro-Israel. I think it’s a good thing that we have a president who wants to strengthen our country instead of weaken it. So politically, I think it’s a very good thing.

Spiritually, I think what we saw the last time Donald Trump was elected is that the Church sort of breathed a sigh of relief, “I think he’ll take it from here on”, you know? And we kind of let the government, we let that pro-Israel, pro-Christian, you know, bent, sort of take the lead. And we forgot that we’re supposed to take the lead as the Church, you know, as the bride of Christ, we’re the pillar and the support of the truth, Paul said.

So prophetically speaking, I don’t think it’s going to accelerate anything, because God has His prefixed times on the return of Christ. And the events, prophetically, I think, are prescripted in the Bible. I think Trump will basically allow Christians to have more of an open door in some areas. And so for that reason, prophetically, we could reach out to people and be more evangelistic, you know, during this time. So I think it’s a great opportunity for us.

Tim Moore: Great opportunity. You don’t think the Lord sits in Heaven and says, “Okay, now let me see how I can tweak my plans according to election outcome in America or anywhere else”, huh?

Nathan Jones: Well, one of the interesting side effects of the election is that we read that there’s a 22% increase in people buying Bibles. It’s weird how the election created a spiritual interest. Why do you think that’s so?

Jeff Kinley: Yeah, it is kind of, I think, a domino effect sometimes, because as Christians, and as Americans, we are influenced by things that happen in culture, things that happen in the political world, whether we like it or not. Some are conscious, some are unconscious.

So I think just the fact that the world saw that there was sort of a victory on the right and on morality in some areas that I think the culture just said, “Wait a minute, maybe there is something to this strength behind these numbers that elected this president.” So it’s no surprise that there’s an increase in Bible sales. The real question is, will those people read those bibles?

Tim Moore: Yeah.

Nathan Jones: Like 9/11, remember when that day, people just hit the snooze button.

Tim Moore: We need to be staying alert, and actually, I would dare say, even as Bible teachers, we need to focus on what the Word of God says instead of going right to the newspaper. Start with Scripture, start with prophecy.

Olivier Melnick: Well, I’m thinking, from a Jewish perspective, you can call it the last Trump. Okay, that was my bad joke.

Nathan Jones: Last Trump.

Tim Moore: Okay, yeah.

Olivier Melnick: So I think that, you know, there’s a lot of things that could happen, you know, with Trump coming back, but what I’m seeing is based on his support of Israel in the first four years that he was president, I think that he’s not going to have a lot of patience for those who are kind of letting things happen.

So I’m hoping that, for instance, the pro-Hamas demonstration on campuses in America, he’s going to bring that to an end, he’s going to basically cripple the universities and say, “Hey, you want funding, you want money? Stop this, denounce it, stop it.” And he’s the kind of guy that would do something like that.

So I’m hoping that those who are trying to promote an anti-Semitic, anti-Zionist agenda will not be able to do it as freely as they did under the previous administration.

Tim Moore: And obviously with Mike Huckabee as his ambassador.

Olivier Melnick: Yes.

Tim Moore: We see that as a positive sign…

Olivier Melnick: I see that, yes.

Tim Moore: …that an evangelical Christian is going to be there supporting Israel.

Olivier Melnick: Yes, absolutely. And Israel, they need to understand on a deeper level that they do have friends in the evangelical world. Not as many as maybe 20 years ago, but they’re there and they want to make a difference.

Nathan Jones: It must be hard for them because America is so two-faced, depending on which president or which administration, they’re your friend, or your enemy, or your frenemy.

Tim Moore: Frenemy.

Nathan Jones: Yeah, oh my goodness. So, one of the…

Olivier Melnick: By the way, it’s not just America, it’s the whole world.

Nathan Jones: The whole world.

Olivier Melnick: I was talking to some of my contacts in France, and in the last couple of days they said, you know, Trump was in Paris at the Notre Dame reopening.

Tim Moore: Yes, he was.

Olivier Melnick: And they were saying, like, Trump was a pariah five years ago, I mean, they hated him. Hated everything that Trump represented, it was so negative. And right now he’s like the Messiah. It’s like everybody wants to become his friend, they want to shake his hand, they want to be doing things with him, and they’re scared. It’s just weird.

Tim Moore: The fickleness of politics.

Olivier Melnick: Yeah.

Tim Sigler: Right, well, there is excitement in the land of Israel over this election. And not only have they named a city in the Golan Heights after Trump years ago, but if you want to add to an “H” on the opposite side of the spectrum, the Huckabee factor, who has already said, “No, this is not the West Bank, this is Biblical Judea and Samaria.”

Tim Moore: Yes.

Tim Sigler: That really sends a completely different message than US foreign policy has sent in previous administrations.

Don Perkins: Well, I do believe that God has given us a reprieve, and I do hold that view. It’s the mercies of God, and I do believe that is a result of the prayers of the saints. There’d be much benefit, I think, for the nation of Israel with this current administration, but also for the Church. And I think that as we have this time of reprieve, that we need to take advantage of it as a church, we need to allow God to give us direction, reach the harvest, go out, and just allow God to just use us at this time.

And you know, with the current administration, the way things were going before, it was looking quite bleak, I’ll be honest with you, with all of the DEI, the transgender, everything. I mean, it was…

Nathan Jones: The restrictions that they have put on our churches.

Don Perkins: Churches, absolutely. And now, we didn’t elect the Messiah, I do understand that.

Nathan Jones: No.

Don Perkins: But I do believe that God allowed him to come in, and he’s favorable toward the church, he’s favorable toward Israel, which is a major key right now.

Tim Moore: Yes. I appreciate what you say, because too many Christians perhaps think, “Ah, it’s a relief.” And they kind of let down or lay back. Now’s the time to be bold, not to get relaxed…

Don Perkins: Engaged.

Tim Moore: …to engage more than ever before. So really, we need to make hay while the sun is shining.

Don Perkins: Absolutely.

Tim Moore: And we need to be aggressive about promoting what the Church is all about.

Don Perkins: Yes.

Tim Moore: Sharing the Gospel with the lost world, because some of those trends are not going to stop either.

Don Perkins: Now we do know, based on prophecy, that it will get darker before it gets brighter.

Tim Moore: Yes, that’s the trend.

Don Perkins: That’s biblical, we understand that. But I do think, as a result of the prayers of the saints, you know, the Scripture says, “Pray for those in authority, that we might lead a quiet and peaceable life.” Now, I do believe because the Church prayed this time, because of everything we have been seeing, I believe because of our intercession, that God has heard our prayers.

Tim Moore: Yeah.

Don Perkins: And I believe because of that, we have this window and we need to take full advantage of it.

Lee Brainard: I think God is using this situation to restrain the way He needs a restrain and to allow the devil to work the way He wants the devil to work, and to give the believers freedom for a short window of time setting things up.

J.B. Hixson: Yeah, I’m not quite ready to agree, but I think that’s very possible. I think certainly it’s better than the alternative. Time will tell. I’m probably a little less optimistic than some people, just knowing a lot about some of the people that are kind of making their way into the administration, particularly people like Elon Musk and so forth.

But time will tell, you know, I think it certainly could push the timeline back, but also, there’s scenarios where it could hasten the timeline, you know? But we’ll see.

Carl Broggi: Well, if anything, the Trump administration, assuming he stays pro-Israel, may accelerate the events, in that he wants, I think, to allow the Temple to be rebuilt. We know that’s going to happen at some point. It only has to be completed and finished before the midpoint of the Tribulation, probably will happen after the Rapture. But God may use him to help move that timeline down. We don’t know, but…

Nathan Jones: Some people would say that anybody who helps produce the Temple could be the Antichrist, but we know Trump would not be the Antichrist.

Carl Broggi: Yeah, no one knows the Antichrist, and he’s a diminutive kind of guy, he’s not the man you’d think of, he’s a little horn, and after he comes on the scene, people are going to be kind of surprised. Kind of like Zelensky, nobody heard his name basically before that war.
But here is a Jewish man, all of a sudden he’s world famous. And that’s how the Antichrist will come on the scene. He’s a little horn, he’s not well known, he’s not the kind of name you pull out of a hat today, but he’s going to become very well known.

Tim Moore: And Satan always has a candidate standing by, because he doesn’t know when the End Times will actually culminate, he’s always got to be ready. But Trump, in his own right, could be almost like a Cyrus, a foreign leader who gives authority and encouragement toward the rebuilding. He may move some things forward, as you say.

Carl Broggi: He may very well, so it remains to be seen. But in either case, though, we have a new president, America woke up in the same moral climate the next day. So we’re still fundamentally the same people and unless God were to bring a sweeping revival, that won’t change, it will only further go down scale. So the political structure can’t change the hearts of people.

Part 3: Signs of Technology

Tim Moore: In the second half of this episode, we’re going to focus on yet another sign vital to End Times prophecy, and one particularly instrumental in the coming Tribulation. It is the sign of technology. And so we asked our panel, “Which of today’s newest technologies could the Antichrist’s global governing system use to rule the world?”

Nathan Jones: As you’ve likely been hearing prolifically in the news each day, Artificial Intelligence, also known as AI, has been advancing developmentally at a staggeringly fast pace. Mankind seems to be hell bet on developing a computer much smarter than a human being and then putting it in control. Will the Antichrist use this new AI technology to track and dominate everybody on the planet? Let’s find out what the Bible says.

Lee Brainard: Well, the things that look to me to be the biggest threat, they’re kind of working like an evil trinity. You’ve got the rise of AI, the rise of supercomputers, and the rise of digital currency, digital surveillance systems that are really tied together. These three things, I think, are the greatest threat to mankind right now, other than the devil himself.

Nathan Jones: How so, how would they present a threat?

Lee Brainard: Well, they are going to be so invasive. In fact, they’re really invasive already, that, I think people are being tracked 10 times more than they anticipate or know. And when they bring this supercomputer stuff together with the advanced AI, in one second they can collate all the data on you that’s anywhere in the world, bring it together and say, “You know what, this guy’s a threat.”

Boom, your bank accounts are shut down, you can’t use public transportation, your social media accounts are shut down. You’re a persona non grata. And they’ll be able to do that at the push of a button in two seconds.

Nathan Jones: Because they’re already doing that in China, right…

Lee Brainard: Absolutely.

Nathan Jones: …with the social credit score? Can you imagine that on a worldwide basis?

Don Perkins: I do believe with AI, you know, that’s going to be a major factor in the End Times, you know? Absolutely, I mean, there’s one thing it’s called, it’s called the Internet of Things.

Tim Moore: Yeah.

Don Perkins: That is an amazing technology that’s going to put tracking ability in everything. I mean, from sophisticated systems to your toothbrush, I mean, everything will broadcast a signal from you, where you are.

Tim Moore: And not only that the Internet of Things is also building the capability to create things…

Don Perkins: Yes.

Tim Moore: …or just formulate things from a computer design or program and then you print it out.

Don Perkins: Yes.

Tim Moore: In late 2024, there was an insurance company CEO that was murdered in New York City.

Don Perkins: Right.

Tim Moore: The perpetrator, the assassin used a printed gun to shoot the CEO. He printed the gun; he printed a silencer. We’re going to see people printing things, companies are already doing it, the military’s trying…

Don Perkins: Yes.

Tim Moore: …where you just download a program and you print whatever device or widget you want.

Don Perkins: Right.

Tim Moore: That has great potential, but also great threat involved.

Nathan Jones: And there’s the Internet of Bodies with Neuralink that Musk is creating.

Don Perkins: Right.

Nathan Jones: Where you have computer networks inside humans where the humans are networked together.

Don Perkins: Right. Not only that, but with the global rise of the low orbiting satellites.

Tim Moore: Starlink.

Don Perkins: Starlink, you’re going to have a global network worldwide that will be able to track every man. Now, I’ve got to give you one other side of this story, because a lot of people think today that we are going to a terminator generation. In other words, it’s going to wind up where AI will become sentient, and then, you know, the world will be totally controlled by AI. Now, I don’t hold that view. You know why? Because I know the future based on the Word of God.

Tim Moore: There you go.

Don Perkins: Now the Antichrist is going to use this system during the Tribulation. But you know something? There’s a great Millennial Kingdom that’s coming that AI would not have control over, because Messiah would sit on the throne. To me, that gives hope in the Church, and in the world, that we don’t have to fear the technology. Now we need to use it, I’m a tech preacher, just like you guys.

Tim Moore: Yes.

Don Perkins: I use technology for the glory of God, but it’s whose hand the technology is in, that’s for the good of others.

Tim Moore: I think you hit the nail right on the head.

J.B. Hixson: So obviously, the Bible says that everyone on Earth will not be able to buy or sell without the mark, Revelation 13.

Tim Moore: Revelation 13.

J.B. Hixson: But what does that look like? I mean, how can some guy in a remote part of a world be tracked, and how’s the Antichrist going to be able to control him or her from being able to buy or sell?

Well, there’s got to be some mechanism, right? God, of course, He’s sovereign, He can see all things at all times. Satan isn’t. So I think we’re probably looking at some type of massive digital ID, we already see that being rolled out in other countries, all over the place, that’s all integrated and it’s tokenized, where they can track your carbon footprint, your social credit score.

I’ve mentioned before, in China today, if you are caught jaywalking before you get across the street, they’ve already debited your account for the fine.

Tim Moore: Wow.

J.B. Hixson: So, I mean, that’s the kind of real time control that Satan longs for. He wants to be God, you know, as Isaiah says he wants to be like the Most High. And I think sometimes we misunderstand what that means exactly. Because most, both in Hebrew and in English, is a singular superlative, there can only be one most, right, you can’t have two most’s, right? So when he says, “I want to be like the Most High,” he’s not envisioning asking God to scoot over and sitting beside Him, he wants God out of that throne and seat, and he wants to take it.

So the way Satan’s going to be able to do that, I think, is through technology, whether that’s through implantable chips, or some kind of a card, or whether that’s most likely integrated into the mark of the beast that we talk about. If you’re not willing to let the government track you during that time, they’re going to be off with your head.

Part 4: More Signs of Technology

Nathan Jones: Well, it sure sounds like society’s rapidly advancing technology will eventually be used to produce a horrific amount of evil. But as Joseph noted in Genesis 50, “But as for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about that is this day to save many people alive.” And so our next three interviews are meant to calm our fears about the misuse of today’s technologies, revealing that what man means for evil, God will use for good, for the salvation of the lost.

Olivier Melnick: You know, I use AI for illustrations, for articles that I write and stuff.

Nathan Jones: It’s very useful, yeah. Especially art.

Olivier Melnick: And the other day I was talking, again, to Doug, you know, mentioned his name twice today, he’s an important guy in my ministry. And we’re talking, because he understands AI much better than I do, and I’m trying to get an illustration for an article that I wrote on the three P’s test, you know, a test for Christians to help Israel.

And I said, please draw a dice with three P’s on three visible sides. It took me about 12 times, it never drew it properly, and it was a simple request. So finally, he goes, “Have you tried in the name of Jesus, I rebuke you?”

Tim Moore: Well, now you’ve got to tell us what the P’s are? You’ve set us up.

Olivier Melnick: Yeah, prayer, promotion, and provision. And it’s in my article on my website. But the point is that I think AI – whatever AI ends up being, I think AI, like everything else, like the internet, it’s a tool, and it can be used for good or for evil.

The best way for people to understand this is you can take a brush, and I’m an artist by trade, so you take a brush, you give it to Claude Monet, and you get the “Water Lilies”. Okay, beautiful painting. You take the same brush, you give it to a Nazi in 1938, and you get the white star on the front of the stores in Berlin and it’s Kristallnacht. Same tool.

Nathan Jones: So whoever’s holding the technology. makes it evil or not.

Olivier Melnick: Whoever’s holding the technology will make it whatever they want for their agenda.

Tim Moore: That’s a great analogy.

Todd Hampson: To me, that’s kind of the, you know, with the First Coming, Jesus came in the fullness of time. The Romans road system had to be in place so the Gospel could go out. You know, Koine Greek was spoken everywhere so that the Gospel could go out. So these things that were secular in nature, but kind of not necessarily good or evil, but kind of neutral, but God used them for good.

And I see the same thing happening here in a way for fulfilling Bible prophecy is that these technologies for sure are going to be used for the mark of the beast. I mean, AI is just cranking out there and ramping up like crazy. Database centers, just how fat the super processing computing and all that stuff.

To me, it makes logical sense that there has to be some kind of technology in place by the midpoint of the Tribulation that someone can fairly easily consolidate and turn into one system to turn you off or turn you on.

Nathan Jones: When I started at the ministry, there were 3.5 billion people accessible over the internet. I checked recent statistics, with Starlink and all these other, 6 billion. The goal, especially with Elon Musk, is to get all 8 billion people connected to the internet. When you’re connecting them to the internet financially, you can turn their finances off.

Todd Hampson: Exactly, and then you have the Central Bank Digital Currency happening at the same time. I’m from Georgia. One day I was driving to the gym in the morning at about 5:00 AM, 5:30 AM, and I see this, I thought it was a shooting star, but then it was a Starlink satellite going up.

Nathan Jones: Yeah, there’s 10 of them, right?

Todd Hampson: Well, no, there was two things. One, I saw they were shooting up a rocket to put one of the satellites in place. And then I saw, yeah, a couple months later, I just happened to look up in the sky and saw it looked like something was firing shots, but it was actually the string, and it was like…

Tim Moore: My wife got into wanting to go out at night and find them. At the certain time of twilight, you could see them streaming across. Now they’ve turned their lights down a little bit. You know, I appreciated what you said about even in Jesus and in Paul’s day, Paul was using technology and the infrastructure of Rome to be able to spread the Gospel. He was actually leveraging his Roman citizenship to be able to have the right to go to the emperor, to go to Rome to proclaim the Gospel. And today, whether we claim our right as Americans or use the technology, the logistics, we are using all the tools God gives us to do the same thing…

Todd Hampson: Amen.

Tim Moore: …to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Todd Hampson: That’s right. Yeah, it’s only evil if you use it for evil. So if it’s there and you can get the Gospel out through it, that’s an amazing thing. We were talking to a pastor recently that was highlighting the fact that Mike Pompeo said that when COVID hit and everything shut down, there was a large data dump into Iran, and it got the CIA’s attention and they all paid attention, it was people in Iran downloading sermons, the Bible, looking up Scriptures, stuff like that.

So they were just like, “Oh, okay, it’s nothing to worry about.” But apparently Mike Pompeo was like, “No, that’s significant from a Christian perspective.”

Nathan Jones: Well, the Gospel has been spreading all over Iran right now.

Jeff Kinley: I think that technology and what we’re using right now is the modern Romans Road. This is the path upon which we spread the Gospel primarily. And you can reach hundreds of thousands of people. Whereas, you know, in your own church, your own ministry, you may only reach a handful. So I think it is a great tool.

As far as the Antichrist is concerned, and the End Times, and prophetic, I think that Antichrist will use a digital economy to bring in the mark of the beast. I think he’ll definitely use technology. Obviously technology, social media is a manipulative tool that people are using right now to help control the masses in many different ways. So it makes no surprise to me that Antichrist would use that to both deceive, to delude, and to control people in the future.

Nathan Jones: One of the technologies we saw is with that healthcare CEO getting shot, how they used facial recognition and tracked him on cameras all over New York and all. Eventually he was arrested, but recognition technology played into capturing him. Do you think the Chinese social credit score will eventually be a worldwide phenomenon?

Jeff Kinley: That’s a great question. I think in some ways; the Antichrist will do everything he can to control people. I think, if he just gets a hold of their pocketbook with a digital economy, that may be enough. And through that he can enact some of these other things, maybe like the social credit system that he’s done. But you know what, this is the thing is that, you know, we live in this day where we are being tracked everywhere we go. If you’ve got a phone, you’re being tracked right now. So the sense of personal privacy, really, is continuing to erode, I think, with the Antichrist and a global regime coming in, that’s going to erode completely in people’s lives.

Part 5: Jeff Kinley’s New Book

Tim Moore: While we were interviewing him, we saw that Jeff Kinley brought along a copy of his bestselling book, The End of the World According to Jesus of Nazareth. We learned how in his book, Jeff introduces the reader to the definitive authority on the future, Jesus Christ Himself. He lets the Bible, and the Bible alone, present a clear understanding of what will take place, when it will happen, and how God desires for us to be prepared. Well, let’s let Jeff describe his fantastic book in more detail…

Tim Moore: Well, we know that you have been involved in a number of book projects, but your latest is, The End of the World According to Jesus of Nazareth. Tell us a little bit about that book.

Jeff Kinley: Yeah, this is an exciting book. I went to Israel when you could go there and sat on the Mount of Olives, and just envisioned, you know, what Christ must have seen, what He was thinking, and reading out of Matthew 24 and 25. So it’s basically a deep dive into the Olivet Discourse, which was Jesus’ last, really, His public teaching there on the End Times. And you get to see the End Times through the Jewish eyes of Jesus Christ. So it’s a very exciting project.

Nathan Jones: Well, how can people get that book? And if they want to check out your ministry and get to hear all your amazing preaching, and teaching, and all, how did they do that?

Jeff Kinley: Yeah, check it out on amazon.com. In fact, the book rose to number 74 out of 32 million books here just recently. So it’s selling like hotcakes, so check it out. And then jeffkinley.com is my website, I’d love to connect with you there.

Closing

Tim Moore: We here at Lamb & Lion Ministries liked Jeff’s book so much we added it to our resource center. So, for only $18, and that includes shipping, we would be happy to send you a copy of this most excellent guide to the End Times. Just call us at the number below or order online.

Nathan Jones: In this episode, we covered just two of the signs of the End Times, the sign of world politics and the sign of technology. But the Bible provides so many other signs, wars and rumors of wars, social upheavals, false teachers and teachings, the Church and apostasy, signs of Israel, signs of nature, spiritual signs, both positive and negative, and a convergence of all the End Time signs that clearly reveal the imminent return of Jesus Christ.
Therefore, we cannot stress this enough, now that you know that the Messiah, the King, is coming soon to set up His Kingdom, we have to ask you, “Are you ready?” One can only be ready by surrendering one’s life to Jesus Christ by asking Him to be the Savior one’s life. We pray that you have done so, and if you have not, that you’ll pray right now. Do not delay!

Tim Moore: Until next time, look up and be watchful, for the signs of the End Times indicate that our Lord Jesus Christ truly is coming soon! Godspeed!

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