The Millennial Kingdom and the Eternal State

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What happens during the Millennial Kingdom and on into the Eternal State? Understand Revelation with Dr. David Reagan and team on the show Christ in Prophecy!

Air Date: August 23, 2020

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Dr. Reagan: Does the book of Revelation teach that Jesus is going to return to this earth to reign for a thousand years? The vast majority of Christendom, both Catholic and Protestant, says no. We say, yes. Also, the majority of Christians believe they will spend eternity in an ethereal world called Heaven. We believe that the book of Revelation clearly teaches we will live eternally on a new earth. Stay tuned for a discussion of these issues.

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Part 1

Dr. Reagan: Greetings in the name of Jesus, our Blessed Hope, and welcome to Christ in Prophecy. Once again this week my two colleagues, Tim Moore, and Nathan Jones have joined me to provide answers to frequently asked questions about the book of Revelation. Folks, this our third program in this series. In the first two we focused on what the book of Revelation has to say about the Great Tribulation. Today we are going to take a look at what it says about the Millennium and Eternity. But first, Nathan, how about telling our folks how they can see the previous two programs we made.

Nathan Jones: Oh, absolutely. Come to our website at christinprophecy.org, or lamblion.com, you can also download our Lamb & Lion app available on all the different venues. And you can check out our YouTube Channel at Christ in Prophecy.

Dr. Reagan: Well, thank you, Nathan. Fellas let’s jump into this right now so that we can cover as many of these Christians as possible. The first one is kind of long winded, so here we go. Six times in the 20th chapter of Revelation it refers to a thousand year reign of Jesus on this earth. How in the world did the majority of Christendom end up denying the plain sense meaning of this chapter by arguing that Jesus will never return to this earth? How do you explain it?

Tim Moore: Well, I think what happened in the early years of the Church is the Church Fathers began to move away from their Jewish roots. As a matter of fact, many of them turned into true anti-Semites. And so, that meant that they wanted to discount all the promises made to the Jewish people. And for that reason, they began to spiritualize many of the promises–

Dr. Reagan: Because this was primarily going to be a Jewish kingdom.

Tim Moore: Exactly right. Jesus was going to reign on this earth for a thousand years.

Dr. Reagan: From Jerusalem.

Tim Moore: From Jerusalem, and that the Jewish nation would be returned to being the prime nation in the world. And they wanted to kind of minimize that promise, and appropriate the various promises made to the Jews for the Church. So, they spiritualized much of prophecy dealing with the future reign of Christ, the Millennial Kingdom. And that meant that they said, “Well, the thousand years doesn’t really mean what says it means.”

Dr. Reagan: What about it, Nathan, any other factors?

Nathan Jones: Well I think it is a misunderstanding of what exactly comprises the Kingdom of Christ. Cotton Mather he was Puritan pastor many years ago, and I think he gave the best definition of what Christ’s Kingdom is. It was a four part kingdom with the fourth part yet to come. And he said the first one it was a spiritual kingdom, obviously the Church is a spiritual kingdom. There is a providential kingdom because God rules. It is also an ecclesiastical kingdom, Christ rules through the Church. And we’ve got those three aspects now. But the fourth that is yet to come is the Davidic Kingdom where Jesus physically sits on the throne of David in Jerusalem. And that’s the part that tends to be forgotten and left behind. But that is very much part of the prophecies, for Christ’s Kingdom is a David Kingdom where Jesus rules and reigns.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah.

Tim Moore: I think there is also an element that one of those promises, that even Cotton Mather recognized, the Church ruling ecclesiastically, that really is not happening in its utter fulfillment. In other words, we who are the Church Age Saints will return with Christ to reign during His Millennial Kingdom. And yet, many of the Early Church Fathers, and to this day, some church leaders think, well, the Church is going to ascend to actually rule over the world.

Nathan Jones: Post-Millennialism.

Tim Moore: Yes, here, and now. And we will so conquer the world, or at least reign over it, that we will hand that kingdom to Christ when He returns. I actually think this constitutes what I call Christian hubris, in other words the idea that we can perfect our own element here in this world.

Dr. Reagan: We can do it ourselves.

Tim Moore: We can do it ourselves. God we can take care of this, and we’ll hand it over to you when You return.

Dr. Reagan: And it is also in direct violation of what the Bible teaches about the end times because it says the end times that things are going to get worse, and worse, and worse, not better, and better, and better.

Tim Moore: Exactly, right.

Dr. Reagan: Okay, well let’s go onto the next question and that is: Why is there any need for a Millennial Reign?

Tim Moore: Well, I think we just touched on that. Nathan, you want to hit that one first?

Nathan Jones: Well, there are so many promises. Of any prophecy in the Bible the rule and reign of Jesus Christ on this earth is the most prolific. And Jesus has been promised to rule and reign over this earth. He is the worthy Lamb who was sacrificed for our sins. He took the title deed of the earth back from Satan. And so, there are promises that Jesus must rule and reign here on this earth.

Dr. Reagan: Nathan, I grew up in an Amillennial church; a church that denied Jesus would ever come back and reign again. And they always said, they always taught me the only place in the Bible where a reign of Jesus is mentioned is in Revelation 20. What about it? Old Testament is there any mention?

Nathan Jones: Oh, obviously. Wow you have to–

Tim Moore: Throughout.

Nathan Jones: Yes, and they’ll describe the Church.

Dr. Reagan: Over, and over and over.

Nathan Jones: What about when Jesus returns, and He is going to land on the Mount of Olives, and it is going to split in two? And He is going to free the people out of Jerusalem.

Dr. Reagan: Zechariah 14.

Nathan Jones: Yeah, Zechariah, Zechariah 12 talks about Jerusalem’s primary role in the end times is.

Dr. Reagan: In fact, I found out later on if you really want to find out about what is going to happen during the Millennium you don’t read the book of Revelation, the book of Revelation is primarily about the Tribulation. There is one chapter about the Millennium and the only new information there is it is a thousand years. You want to find out about the Millennial Reign of Jesus read the book of Isaiah from beginning to end.

Nathan Jones: Oh, yes.

Tim Moore: The other aspect that is not touched out if you look at the Amillennialist is the promises again to the Jewish people. The fact that they will return to a nation of primacy. You know that is a promise that was repeated over, and over in the Old Testament. And so, modern Christians that say, “Well, that is not really what God meant. What He meant was spiritual Israel, and that is the Church. No, He meant hereditary Israel, and those promises are still to be fulfilled for the Jewish people. Let alone the earth itself, which is given promises for restoration, to be returned like the Garden of Eden. We are not seeing that today. At least if you look at my backyard with the weeds growing, and the thorns and the thistles.

Nathan Jones: And the Church is promised to rule and reign with Jesus Christ for a thousand years, so that we inherit that. But we can’t do it in our current form, we have to do it in our glorified bodies.

Dr. Reagan: Basically, the only way you can get around all of these promises in the Old Testament, and in the New Testament and in the book of Revelation chapter 20 is to spiritualize. And you take the position it doesn’t mean what it says, and you spiritualize it to mean something else. But all the First Coming prophecies meant what they said. Why wouldn’t the Second Coming prophecies not mean what they say?

Tim Moore: Exactly so.

Dr. Reagan: Okay, let’s go to the next one. And that is: Revelation 20 says that Satan will be bound at the beginning of the Millennium. People who don’t believe in a Millennium, the Amillennials they believe we are in the Millennium today; they believe it began at the cross and will end at the Second Coming of Jesus. They claim Satan is bound today.

Tim Moore: If he is, like you like to say Dave, he’s on an awfully long leash. We know that Satan is restrained; he is limited in what he can do.

Dr. Reagan: The Holy Spirit.

Tim Moore: He was restrained even in the Old Testament when he went before God Himself to say, “I want to now do this to Job.” And God said, “Well, you can affect his family, you can affect his belongings, you can touch his body.” But he gave limits to Satan’s power even over one man. That is still true today. So, Satan’s defeat was sealed at the cross. But he is not currently defeated. Even as he promised Jesus he said, “I can give you all the kingdoms of the earth.” Jesus didn’t say, “Well, those aren’t yours to give.” They are still under his authority–

Dr. Reagan: Well if the kingdoms weren’t his then Jesus wasn’t tempted.

Tim Moore: Exactly right. No, he’s the prince of this world right now.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah. So, yeah, another thing about this is it says in the book of Revelation that Satan is going to be bound in a very special way. It says he is going to be bound so that he can no longer deceive the nations of the world. Show me a nation today that is not deceived.

Tim Moore: Oh, boy, there isn’t one. They are all deceived.

Dr. Reagan: Okay, let’s go to the next one. Boy, I love the way we are covering these questions guys, keep firing. Revelation 20 says Satan will be released at the end of the Millennium. Now, why would he be bound for a thousand years, released at the end of the Millennium?

Nathan Jones: You know Satan might think that he’s got it all. He’s in charge and he’s running the show. But like you said he can’t do anything without God giving him permission to work within a certain boundary. And Satan has always been a lightening rod for those who want to rebel against God. And so, here we get this 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ. It is defined by peace, and righteousness, and justice. Life spans are long again. Animals and people are getting along. Sin is low. It is a wonderful thing. But the human body still wishes to rebel. It still lusts, and craves, and stuff. And even though people will be going to see Jesus every year, you can see some verses refer to the fact that some of the nations, say Egypt for example decide not to go up to see Jesus. There is already you start seeing elements of rebellion in the Millennial Kingdom.

Dr. Reagan: He is going to be ruling with a rod of iron.

Nathan Jones: Yeah, it will be real strict and they don’t want to live, they want to live free in their human bodies. So, even in a paradise, a utopia, we’ve got Satan released at the end for the purpose again of being again that lightening rod. Those who wish to rebel against Jesus will gather to him. Tragically, we are taking about uncountable millions, they will go up to Jerusalem, yet again, to try to overthrow Jesus. He doesn’t spend seven years. He doesn’t waste time. Fire. Boom. He’s done.

Tim Moore: I think there are many people today who think, “Well, if we could just perfect society.” Uh, then people would live in an environment where there is no temptations, this, that, and the other. It is the old nature, versus nurture. If we could just nurture humanity correct, then we could achieve perfection. We could be like God. The original lie perpetrated in the Garden of Eden. So, that is humanism. That is the false religion of humanism which is rampant today even in our culture.

Dr. Reagan: The belief that man is basically good and can be perfected. But the Bible says exactly the opposite.

Tim Moore: Exactly the opposite. So, even after a Millennium where there has been perfect nurturing of the mortals on this earth, they will still rebel against the Lord.

Dr. Reagan: God is going to prove once and for all that humanism is false.

Tim Moore: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: You know we go in a circle here. We began all of history with two people in a perfect environment, they rebelled against God. We end up with all of humanity in a perfect environment, they still rebel.

Tim Moore: They still rebel.

Nathan Jones: And I’d like to clarify one point that people ask: Is that will the Church rebel along with Satan? No, no those who are in glorified bodies will be loyal to Jesus. It is the children of the Tribulation Saints; they will be the one who will rebel.

Dr. Reagan: Yes. You know I had a fella tell me one time he said, “I just don’t see why they would rebel. They are living in a perfect society. They can see Jesus.” I said, “Hey, Jesus was here once before and people and saw Him.” And what did He do? He healed people. He blessed people. He fed people. And they crucified Him.

Tim Moore: That’s right. And a week after calling, “Hail Hosanna to the Son of David!” A week later they were yelling, “Crucify Him!”

Dr. Reagan: Okay, very quickly. Revelation 20:11 speaks of a Great White Throne Judgment at the end of the Tribulation. What is that all about?

Tim Moore: Well, the Great White Throne Judgment is where it says that people will be judged for their deeds.

Dr. Reagan: What people?

Tim Moore: Well, those who have been resurrected to stand before the Great White Throne. And there are a lot of people today who say, “Well,–

Dr. Reagan: But who are those people? These are people who have died without a faith relationship with God.

Tim Moore: Exactly right.

Dr. Reagan: Every unbeliever in history.

Tim Moore: Every unbeliever.

Dr. Reagan: We are not talking about believers.

Tim Moore: No, no, no. So, there are a lot of people today who think, “Well, I just hope that my good deeds outweigh my bad deeds.” Folks let me make it very clear, that is a horrible fate that awaits you. Because Isaiah says very clearly in Isaiah 64:6, “All our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.” And so, anybody who is relying on their good deeds when they stand before that Great White Throne, and the Lord Himself judges them based on their deeds will be condemned forever.

Dr. Reagan: Okay.

Nathan Jones: They are missing the only deed that matters, Jesus Christ’s death on the cross, accepting that.

Tim Moore: Exactly right.

Dr. Reagan: Revelation 20:12 says, “a book of life” will be opened at the White Throne Judgment. What in the world is that?

Nathan Jones: Well, there are actually two books of life. There in Psalm 139:16, that is everybody who has ever been born is in that book. And then there is the Lamb’s Book of Life, those who are saved. You can be in the regular book of life because you were born. But the Lamb’s Book of Life means that you have accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, and you will inherit eternal life.

Dr. Reagan: Great. Let’s take a brief break and then we’ll take a look at what Revelation says about Eternity.

Part 2

Dr. Reagan: Welcome back to Christ in Prophecy and our responses to questions about the book of Revelation and what it says about the Millennium and Eternity. Okay, fellows, let’s pick up where we left off. First another long winded question: Revelation 21 comes as a shock to most people who are not familiar with Bible prophecy. And that is because it presents a new heaven and a new earth and shows believers being lowered down to that new earth inside a new Jerusalem. Now, I grew up in an Amillennial church and we were taught that we were going to live eternally in an ethereal world where we would be spirits floating around on clouds playing harps. What is this about a new earth?

Tim Moore: Well, the Bible teaches that the Lord is going to reshape the earth. That He is going to come with a new Jerusalem upon the earth. So, obviously the earth might have to be enlarged for the dimensions of Jerusalem, the city that will be built. And that the Lord Himself is going to live right amongst us, He is going to dwell with us. And that is not just a New Testament prophecy, that is a promise from the Old Testament. So, in Ezekiel chapter 48, verse 35 Ezekiel has given us the dimensions of this new city. And he says at the very end of his book, he says, “The name of the city from that day shall be the Lord is There.” Or Yahweh-Shammah, the Lord is there.

Dr. Reagan: Yes, boy that was a shock to me. I mean a real shock. That we were going to spend eternity on a new earth, and God was going to come down. Heaven is going to come to earth, and we are going to live in the presence of our Creator. Have intimate fellowship.

Nathan Jones: How do they explain how you can sit on a cloud, and be a ghost, and play a harp? How does that work? Wouldn’t the hands go through the harp?

Dr. Reagan: That goes back to Greek philosophy. When we began, when the Church began to convert so many Gentiles. Those Gentiles came into the Church with Greek philosophy. And Greek philosophy taught that everything material is evil. That’s where Gnosticism came from. The Gnostics said that Jesus could not have been in a fleshly body because that would put God who is perfect in something that is imperfect. So, He was just a ghost. And He wasn’t really killed. So, all of that came in with Platonic Philosophy, and the idea that it can’t be a new earth, that’s just a code word for Heaven, because we can’t spend eternity on something material. Okay. Now we have a series of questions submitted by viewers.

Tim Moore: Good.

Dr. Reagan: And we want to go through these as quickly as possible. So, here we go: Jerry L. writes: Will we know each other in Heaven?

Nathan Jones: Absolutely. I mean it is a family reunion in Heaven. You will know all those who were saved, they are in Heaven with you, family, loved ones. Now of course they had to be saved to be in Heaven, but we will know each other.

Dr. Reagan: Best explanation of that I ever heard was if I’m not David in Heaven, then David wasn’t saved.

Tim Moore: Oh, I like that.

Dr. Reagan: I mean come on; I’m going to be David in Heaven just like David here. But I am going to have a new name.

Nathan Jones: Yes.

Tim Moore: Yes.

Dr. Reagan: A new name is going to given to each of us. Okay number two: Are our loved ones who are in Heaven now watching us? This comes from Jerry L.

Tim Moore: No, I don’t believe that our loved ones in Heaven are watching us. They are too busy enjoying fellowship with the Lord Himself. They have no real immediate interest in watching us. They hope that we will join them. And if we are believers, obviously we will. But we know that there is a wide chasm even between the heavenly realm and us, which is what the parable talks about in Luke chapter 16 with Lazarus and the rich man. And the rich man said, “Please, send someone back.” And Lazarus said, “No, there is a great chasm. I can’t go back.” I don’t think people can even see.

Nathan Jones: What kind of Heaven would it be too if they were looking down at the sins, and the destruction on the earth all the time? It wouldn’t be much of a Heaven.

Tim Moore: No.

Dr. Reagan: Okay, here is a very interesting question now.

Nathan Jones: Uh-oh, and he’s looking at me.

Dr. Reagan: And the Bible does not specifically address. Shane S. of Covington, Washington writes: If a baby or child dies on earth will it remain so in Heaven?

Nathan Jones: Well, like you said there is absolutely nothing in the Bible that says what age we will be when we are in Heaven. Some look to Jesus that He did His ministry between 30-33, and then we’ll be 30-33. Some back from the dead experiences like Terry James has had he believes that they look like in their mid to late 20’s. There are different theories. But, no, you won’t be an eternal baby. The idea is that you have fellowship with God as a mature adult, a finished product. And you can’t be a finished product if you are still a baby.

Dr. Reagan: Well, I would agree with that. I don’t think that they are eternally going to be a baby. But I have another idea. And that idea is, and this is just a guess, that the Lord, one of the blessings He might give is that all of the children who died as babies, that He might give their parents the opportunity to raise them to adulthood. And so, we’ll see.

Nathan Jones: Oh, and some of those families were pretty big back then, too.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah. Okay. Here we go, this is from Kerry H. in East Bend, North Carolina: When we get to Heaven will we know all things, or will we keep on learning?

Tim Moore: Oh, that is a great question because I look forward to continuing to learn. I think that we will then know as we are known. As a matter of fact Paul writes in 1 Corinthians chapter 13, verse 11 and 12, actually 12 I’ll cite, he said, “For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully, just as I also have been fully known.” So, I think we will gain understanding. But can you imagine being able to go to the outer reaches of the galaxies and explore stars and see the magnitude of what God has created all over the universe, and to understand all of history. I think that we will have an eternity to absorb and to just worship God for all that He has accomplished and done.

Dr. Reagan: Yeah, and I have a concept of us being able to do that in our glorified bodies without a spaceship.

Tim Moore: There you go. So, I don’t think we could contain that instantaneously.

Dr. Reagan: Furthermore, God is infinite.

Nathan Jones: Yes.

Tim Moore: Exactly.

Dr. Reagan: And I think we will always be learning.

Nathan Jones: I think Romans 11:33–

Dr. Reagan: I can hardly wait to sit in on a Bible study of the book of John with John.

Nathan Jones: John, yes.

Tim Moore: Yes.

Nathan Jones: I think Romans 11:33 gives us the answer, “Oh, the depths of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!” God is infinite. We will be chasing infinite knowledge, which means we’ll never learn it all.

Dr. Reagan: Okay, number five: Will I still be married in Heaven? This is from Carolyn R.

Tim Moore: Oh, I’m glad that yours, Nathan.

Nathan Jones: You know I feel for those who write in and ask about that because it usually means a spouse has just died.

Dr. Reagan: That’s right.

Nathan Jones: And they are really hurting. And they really want to know the answer to this. If you go to Matthew 22:30 that same question was asked of Jesus, and He said, “In Heaven you will be like the angels, you won’t be married.” You won’t be having sex. Some people want to know if there is sex in Heaven. We will still have genders, but we will not be procreating. So, no you have a spiritual union with our Savior Jesus Christ, and that is the marriage that we will have.

Dr. Reagan: That will be fulfilling.

Tim Moore: I love also what He says, same kind of passage when He is talking about that question. But He address in Mark chapter 12:24 when the Sadducees ask Him this very question with the woman who has married seven different husbands, will she be married in Heaven? And the Lord’s response starts this way, He said, “Is this not the reason you are mistaken that you do not understand the scriptures or the power of God?” And so, I think there is an element to where we get there and are fully known. Right now, we have an intimacy of relationship with our spouse, and it is a beautiful thing. It is a picture of the intimacy that the Lord God has with His triune self. And so, when we are in Heaven we will have the ability to be united with the Lord God and have intimacy of fellowship with our fellow believers. And so, I think that it will blow our minds, the way that we, I hate to use that phrase, but I cannot understand right now. It is beyond comprehension. But we will have that level of spiritual interaction with the Lord God that will fulfill all of that need for fellowship, which right now we only meet in that spousal relationship.

Nathan Jones: Amen.

Dr. Reagan: Okay, here is one from Leslie C. and it is a good one: Considering the size of the New Jerusalem, 1500 miles wide, long and high, how will it fit on the new earth? I mean won’t it cause the earth to wobble? I mean it is just so huge.

Tim Moore: Well, it is huge. And that is why I indicated earlier the Lord when He reshapes this earth, when He reforms it in perfection it may be an expanded earth, we have no idea what the Lord has instore. But He is the author of creation, and so He will size it appropriately and make sure that it runs perfectly.

Dr. Reagan: We know that it is going to be very different from the current earth.

Tim Moore: Oh, certainly.

Dr. Reagan: For example, it says there will be no seas, there will lakes and ponds, and things like that but no sea.

Tim Moore: And Jerusalem will be the highest point on earth.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, yeah, highest point on earth.

Nathan Jones: Well, you think that the New Jerusalem will stretch from the Atlantic to Colorado, and from Canada to Mexico. I’ve heard some scientists say that the New Earth would have to be the size of Jupiter to hold the city without a weird wobble. But, even so, it has been calculated that each person could fit in the New Jerusalem and have 70 miles cubed just to themselves.

Dr. Reagan: Oh, that’s wonderful.

Nathan Jones: It’s that big.

Tim Moore: It’s huge.

Dr. Reagan: I don’t have that much now. Okay, alright, Nathan I am going to direct this to you.

Nathan Jones: Okay.

Dr. Reagan: Do pets go to Heaven when they die? Sent in by Elizabeth and a thousand other people.

Nathan Jones: It is actually two questions. They want to know if they will have pets in Heaven? I believe that the Lord is going to have animal life, all the extinct things.

Dr. Reagan: We know there are animals there now.

Nathan Jones: You might have a pet Brachiosaurus. You know, you might fly a Pteranodon. You might have horses. There are pets in Heaven.

Dr. Reagan: Jesus is returning on a white horse.

Nathan Jones: But, I know this isn’t popular, so if you have any problems with my answer write Tim Moore and tell him, but I don’t believe that our pets now will be given an afterlife. Because we know in Genesis that God breathed life into humanity alone, not the animal life. So, animals are wonderful things. I love my dog Molly, I have a beagle, she’s a pest but she is a wonderful dog. But I don’t anticipate I’m going to have to take care of her forever.

Dr. Reagan: Well, I’m going to take a different approach.

Nathan Jones: And I know you do, yes.

Dr. Reagan: Because I believe God has got a lot of surprises in store for us in Heaven. And one of them might be that we would have the pet that we have now, we don’t know for sure, there is not any indication one way or the other. So, I’m just going to say I’m hoping that Miss Lizzy, my dachshund will be there.

Tim Moore: Now, here’s, I’m going to come right in the middle.

Dr. Reagan: Okay.

Tim Moore: Which you might well imagine from where I am sitting. If we don’t have husbands and wives, there is no marrying and giving in marriage, because our relationships are so much fuller, beyond even that spousal relationship, and with the Lord. I agree that there will be animals, and we will be able to enjoy them in the fullness, all the creatures great and small. But, if we are not having husband and wife relationships, I’m not sure that we will even have the distraction, if you will, of worrying about a relationship with a specific animal because our focus will be on Jesus Christ.

Nathan Jones: Absolutely.

Dr. Reagan: Well, I’m still hoping for Miss Lizzy.

Tim Moore: I hope for you.

Dr. Reagan: Let me skip to another question right fast, that we can handle quickly: Will we have to endure Purgatory before going to Heaven?

Tim Moore: Quick answer, no. No!

Dr. Reagan: Absolutely. There is no Purgatory in the Bible.

Tim Moore: No of course not.

Nathan Jones: No, it came hundreds of years later after the first century.

Dr. Reagan: And furthermore, Purgatory is a blasphemy of Jesus Christ because it saying that the cross, and the blood was not sufficient to cleanse us of our sins. That we have to go and suffer to be cleansed of our sins. So, it is just absolute nonsense. Okay. Here is one from Sherry B.: Is it carnal to expect rewards in Heaven?

Nathan Jones: Oh, my goodness, that means that what Jesus taught about, in especially Matthew 6 and Luke 12 and all where He taught about eternal rewards. Where Paul taught about crowns that we’ll wear, eternal testaments of our service here on earth that we will lay before the feet of Christ, an eternal act of worship. Absolutely, not, it is not carnal at all because the Lord loves to give, He loves to give good gifts to His children. And eternity is spent celebrating what the Holy Spirit did through us while we were on this earth.

Tim Moore: I think that those of us who long for the return of Jesus Christ are promised a crown of righteousness.

Dr. Reagan: That’s right.

Tim Moore: And not just for my own sake to be able to wear, I want something to throw at the feet of Jesus Christ to say, “Praise you Lord.”

Nathan Jones: Amen.

Tim Moore: Whatever crown I’ve got is due to You. And, so, I hope I have a whole stack of crowns to cast before His feet.

Dr. Reagan: Well, you know our Pastor Glenn Meredith has taught a lot on this, and he says, “People always say, ‘Well, if he has a crown and I don’t have one, well I’ll be jealous of him.'” Come on you are going to be in a perfected state. You are going to be in a glorified body. That sin nature is going to be gone. You are going to be as proud of that person as you would be proud of your son today who accomplishes something.

Nathan Jones: Amen.

Tim Moore: Yes.

Closing

Tim Moore: We’ve really enjoyed answering your questions today on Bible prophecy. And we hope you’ll keep those coming. This is one of the funniest things that we get to do is answering specific questions that you, our viewers, have asked of us over the years. Well, folks, that is our program for this week. I hope it has been a blessing to you, and I hope the Lord willing that you will be back with us next week. Until then, this is Tim Moore speaking for Lamb & Lion Ministries saying, “Look up, be watchful, for our redemption is drawing near.”

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